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Re: PORNOGRAPHY

Post by fredms3 on Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:05 pm

sakundes wrote:

again, that's just an assumption ^_^

do any of you guys have real proof that there's a paradise? you cant even tell me which one is real as all of you have your own versions. the catholics have their heaven, the jews have their new jerusalem and eden, the moslems have their 70 virgin biatches (im rooting for islam mind you lols), the buddhist have nirvana.

now, do i get to pick one or only one of these given is right?

Do you believe in the Bible? If yes, then by very simple means i can prove you that, otherwise, even if you're rooting for Islam, your belief can never go hand in hand with them believe me.

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Post by fredms3 on Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:10 pm

sakundes wrote:

even "if" there is.. what makes you think that you have the right version? are you not gonna be damned just like the rest of us heathens? all of you claim exclusivity to salvation and that is reason enough to deduce that everyone's gonna go to hell ^_^

so before you make the extended visit, why not spend the time to know your way around? and dont worry, even if we see each other in hell, im not gonna say "i told you so". you can bet on dat! ^_^

but seriously, im rooting for your own version especially with the houris.. there is nothing more perverted than that compared with other religions... christianity is the most boring id say, so id want nothing to do with them +_+

cheers! ^_^

Why concern yourself with 'version?' Whatever version it is, one thing is for sure, there is life after death.

Same logic with religion.

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Post by sakundes on Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:20 pm

Do you believe in the Bible? If yes, then by very simple means i can prove you that, otherwise, even if you're rooting for Islam, your belief can never go hand in hand with them believe me.

if all you have is faith and belief, then you can never sell your religion to atheists like me. i know it's hard but we can never lie to ourselves.

what i can say is that the bible is too outdated with the current times.. you need a refreshed version ^_^

as for what i've observed, only the old ones are concerned with religions.. the young ones have too many things to take care of.. things much more important.. if those werent important why would they be doing it anyway right?

besides, religion wont pay my bills.. unless im a pastor or way up than that ^_^
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Post by fredms3 on Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:33 pm

sakundes wrote:

if all you have is faith and belief, then you can never sell your religion to atheists like me. i know it's hard but we can never lie to ourselves.

what i can say is that the bible is too outdated with the current times.. you need a refreshed version ^_^

as for what i've observed, only the old ones are concerned with religions.. the young ones have too many things to take care of.. things much more important.. if those werent important why would they be doing it anyway right?

besides, religion wont pay my bills.. unless im a pastor or way up than that ^_^

Whether for you the Bible is outdate or not, the question is yet to be answered --- do you believe in it?

May i ask you, is there anything more important to your wife (if you have one) if none, more important to your family?

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Post by sakundes on Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:46 pm

Whether for you the Bible is outdate or not, the question is yet to be answered --- do you believe in it?

May i ask you, is there anything more important to your wife (if you have one) if none, more important to your family?

my GF and my family know of that im antichristian.. and the gf and especially my mom are devout. my beliefs (or non thereof) are mine and mine alone.. i dont make it a point a spread my dark gospel unless people asked for it ^_^

i understand them and they do the same to me.. religion does not make any difference to how we see each other ^_^

although there are minor sacrifices (like getting a church wedding in the future, and going to church on some occasions), i could live with that to make them happy. im at the point that no manner of preaching or sales talk will make any difference to me. im already past that point ^_^
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Post by fredms3 on Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:59 pm

sakundes wrote:

my GF and my family know of that im antichristian.. and the gf and especially my mom are devout. my beliefs (or non thereof) are mine and mine alone.. i dont make it a point a spread my dark gospel unless people asked for it ^_^

i understand them and they do the same to me.. religion does not make any difference to how we see each other ^_^

although there are minor sacrifices (like getting a church wedding in the future, and going to church on some occasions), i could live with that to make them happy. im at the point that no manner of preaching or sales talk will make any difference to me. im already past that point ^_^

Ok.

Your gf and your mom are devout catholic?

Btw, what prompted you to become an atheist?

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Post by sakundes on Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:03 pm

Ok.

Your gf and your mom are devout catholic?

Btw, what prompted you to become an atheist?

too many things i cant accept with religion.. and too many arguments i've came up in years.

but it all started with predetermination.. i believe in choice, and my atheism is proof of that ^_^
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Post by MarcCatholic on Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:20 pm

Sakundes, what's the essence of life to you? Very Happy
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Post by miss_terry on Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:26 pm

sakundes. Its only a test of faith. LOL
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Post by gin on Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:51 am

sakundes wrote:

too many things i cant accept with religion.. and too many arguments i've came up in years.

but it all started with predetermination.. i believe in choice, and my atheism is proof of that ^_^

Then hate the idea of this so called 'religion'.
But why also reject the idea that there is a 'god'?

God didn't put up a religion in the first place...
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Post by MarcCatholic on Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:42 am

At least, he could be a theist in his own version. Hmmmm.
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Re: PORNOGRAPHY

Post by Mojako on Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:49 am

Wala na kayong magagwa dyan kay SAKUNDES sarado na xxxxxxxxxx at nakakandado pa sa xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxkaya eto nakasulat sa REVELATION...

Rev 22:11 Ang liko, ay magpakaliko pa: at ang marumi, ay magpakarumi pa: at ang matuwid, ay magpakatuwid pa: at ang banal, ay magpakabanal pa.

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Post by MarcCatholic on Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:11 am

Malay mo brad. Yong best thinker nga nila e after many years na atheist at nagpublish pa ng mga books pagtanda naging Kristiyano. Nalimutan ko ang name. Very Happy
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Post by Mojako on Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:22 am

^baka si Anthony Flew ang tinutukoy mo?
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Post by MarcCatholic on Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:19 am

Siya nga brad. Very Happy
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Post by Ateo on Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:47 am

I am sorry to disagree. Flew has never been our best thinker. Far from it.

And he NEVER became a Christian again. Read your source again, please.

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Post by MarcCatholic on Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:51 am

Ay, mukhang hindi ata siya Kowya Ateo. Iba po ata basta best thinker din ng mga atheists.
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Post by Ateo on Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:55 am

Si Flew nga ang ibig mong tukuyin, pero hindi naman siya ang best thinker ng mga atheist. He was one of the early authors but there were already atheist authors since ancient times. When he was dying he rejected atheism, but he did not become a Christian, only a deist.

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Post by harballah on Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:58 am

Mojako wrote:Wala na kayong magagwa dyan kay SAKUNDES sarado na UTAK nyan at nakakandado pa sa pagiging Atheist kaya eto nakasulat sa REVELATION...

Please lang Mojako huwag po tayong mamersonal ng tao, dapat irespeto parin natin sila like what I said in my previous post.

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Post by MarcCatholic on Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:00 am

Ah ganun po ba. Sorry po kung nagkamali ako ng paratang pero parang ganun na nga din. Very Happy
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Post by harballah on Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:25 am

MarcCatholic wrote:Ah ganun po ba. Sorry po kung nagkamali ako ng paratang pero parang ganun na nga din. Very Happy

Hindi naman ikaw ang namersonal kundi si Mojako, sana huwag nilang dalhin dito ang asal doon sa kabilang forum, let peace to everyone.

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Post by MarcCatholic on Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:27 am

Ay Kowya Harby yong reply ko na yan ay kay Ateo. Ahehehe! Very Happy
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Post by harballah on Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:49 am

MarcCatholic wrote:Ay Kowya Harby yong reply ko na yan ay kay Ateo. Ahehehe! Very Happy

Sorry hindi ka kasi nag-quote akala ko ako ang sinagot mo diyan......tulog kana para makapagpahinga ka huwag mo akong gayahin bro.

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Post by MarcCatholic on Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:59 am

Opo kowya. Eto borlog na akey. Very Happy
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Post by korrill on Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:45 am

harballah wrote:Madali lang po ang sagot diyan, kung wala pong baril ay wala pong mapuputukan pero sa tingin ko ay napakalayo po ng pagkukumpara ninyo ng baril sa pornograpiya.

Actually, the principles are the same.

harballah wrote:Una-una ang baril po ay puwedeng itago sa lugar kung saan hindi makikita ng bata, katulad din sa mga matatandang nanood ng pornograpiya, kung mahilig po silang manood nito ay huwag nilang panoorin kung saan nandoon ang mga bata.

Sa kaso po ng pornograpiya ay madaling makikita ng mga bata sapagkat iyan ay naglilipana ang bold movies sa bangketa, nakalatag ang mga malalaswang larawan sa diyaryo, nakadikit ang larawan ng mga mananayaw sa labas ng disco bar, madaling mag-access ang mga bata sa internet.

Not the issue. Let me remind you about your assertion: Pornography is the cause of sex crimes.

harballah wrote:Ngayon papaano mo ikukumpara ang baril sa pornograpiya............again, nauunawaan ko po kayo kung paborito ninyo ang pornograpiya.

Thanks and peace!

Harballah

Ad hom. I never said anything about whether I like it or not. That is not the contention. The argument presented is about cause. So please answer the question to the situation I gave:

Who is at fault:

a. the boy

b. the gun

c. the parents

Thanks and peace!
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