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Re: Mabisang Terapi: Bugbugin ang Asawa

Post by BibleBot on Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:05 pm

o harballah hindi mo ba napuna na marami ng kapwa mo muslim ang nagsasabing terapi nga ang paguumbag sa asawang pasaway

napanood mo ba ang palabas na Rubi yung teleserye ni Angelica Panganiban at Diether Ocampo

natuklasan ni Deither na nangaliwa si Angelica kaya ayun nagulpi after nagulpi na terapi.
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Re: Mabisang Terapi: Bugbugin ang Asawa

Post by harballah on Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:09 pm

BibleBot wrote:o harballah hindi mo ba napuna na marami ng kapwa mo muslim ang nagsasabing terapi nga ang paguumbag sa asawang pasaway

napanood mo ba ang palabas na Rubi yung teleserye ni Angelica Panganiban at Diether Ocampo

natuklasan ni Deither na nangaliwa si Angelica kaya ayun nagulpi after nagulpi na terapi.

Nasaan naba iyong link ng usapin ninyo ni Shemp, wala paba kasi kung nandito lang sa NEW BARM ay baka ako na ang naghanap kaso ikaw ang maysabi na nag-usap kayo ni Shemp about diyan, ngayon nasaan na ang link?

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Re: Mabisang Terapi: Bugbugin ang Asawa

Post by the700clowns on Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:49 pm

this BibleBot, is he the kapatid aka disipulo of the old Public square?
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Re: Mabisang Terapi: Bugbugin ang Asawa

Post by BibleBot on Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:58 am

o kamusta clown welcome dito sa forum

ikaw ba tinatanggap mo ba na terapi ang pamuumbag sa asawang pasaway?
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Post by the700clowns on Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:13 pm

BibleBot wrote:o kamusta clown welcome dito sa forum

ikaw ba tinatanggap mo ba na terapi ang pamuumbag sa asawang pasaway?

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Post by BibleBot on Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:25 pm

the700clowns wrote:

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hindi.

ibig bang sabihin tutol ka sa iskolar at sa kapwa mo muslim na nagsabing terapi nga iyon?
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ibig bang sabihin tutol ka sa iskolar at sa kapwa mo muslim na nagsabing terapi nga iyon?

sino namang scholar ang may sabing therapy ang pambubugbog, kung meron man e tutol ako, hindi naman komo scholar e sigurado nang honest o kaya e sigurado nang hindi nagkakamali e, kaya nga may Quran para bilang guidance at may patunay sila sa sinasabi nila.
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Post by BibleBot on Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:14 pm

the700clowns wrote:

sino namang scholar ang may sabing therapy ang pambubugbog, kung meron man e tutol ako, hindi naman komo scholar e sigurado nang honest o kaya e sigurado nang hindi nagkakamali e, kaya nga may Quran para bilang guidance at may patunay sila sa sinasabi nila.

eh di ibig mong sabihin hindi ka pala sang-ayun sa sinasabi sa koran na ang isa sa mga lunas para sa mga pasaway na asawa ay umbagin?
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Re: Mabisang Terapi: Bugbugin ang Asawa

Post by harballah on Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:36 pm

Botbot, ang sagot ni clowns ay "sino namang scholar ang may sabing therapy ang pambubugbog, kung meron man e tutol ako, hindi naman komo scholar e sigurado nang honest o kaya e sigurado nang hindi nagkakamali e, kaya nga may Quran para bilang guidance at may patunay sila sa sinasabi nila. " kasi itong inilatag ko kay Gin ang kasagutan at hindi ang Iskolar.


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Gin dahil ikaw ay nandito ay nais ko rin maging saksi ka sa Aral sa ISLAM kung ano ang turo ng propheta Muhammad (pbuh).


Sunan Abudawod:

Book 11, Number 2137:

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri:

Mu'awiyah asked: Apostle of Allah, what is the right of the wife of one of us over him? He replied: That you should give her food when you eat, clothe her when you clothe yourself, do not strike her on the face, do not revile her or separate yourself from her except in the house.


Book 11, Number 2138:

Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Haydah:

I said: Apostle of Allah, how should we approach our wives and how should we leave them? He replied: Approach your tilth when or how you will, give her (your wife) food when you take food, clothe when you clothe yourself, do not revile her face, and do not beat her.

Book 11, Number 2139:

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri:

I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them.



Sahih Muslim:

Book 008, Number 3467:

Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported: Woman has been created from a rib and will in no way be straightened for you; so if you wish to benefit by her, benefit by her while crookedness remains in her. And if you attempt to straighten her, you will break her, and breaking her is divorcing her.


Book 008, Number 3468:

Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying: He who believes in Allah and the Hereafter, if he witnesses any matter he should talk in good terms about it or keep quiet. Act kindly towards woman, for woman is created from a rib, and the most crooked part of the rib is its top. If you attempt to straighten it, you will break it, and if you leave it, its crookedness will remain there. So act kindly towards women.


Malinaw itong nakasaad sa banal na Quran.

4:19
"O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good.

30:21
"And among God's signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect.

4:128
"If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do.

2:231
"And when you men have divorced women, ...then either retain them in kindness if you reconcile, or part with them in kindness. Do not retain them to harm them so that you transgress limits. He who does this has wronged himself.

24:26
"Women impure for men impure. And women of purity for men of purity. These are not affected by what people say. For them is forgiveness and an honorable provision.


9:71
"And the believers men and women are friends one of the other, they enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong, and they establish worship and pay the poor due, and they obey God and his messenger. As for these, God will have mercy on them...


I hope na makatulong ito sa mga nagsasabing ang pagbugbog sa Islam sa mga kababaihan ay isang therapy lamang, ang aral ng Islam ay naayon sa nakatala sa Quran at hadith o sunnah ng propheta Muhammad (pbuh) hindi sa sinuman nagsasabing therapy ito.


Ngayon kailan mo talaga balak sagutin ito kasi puro ka propaganda pero ayaw mong sumagot.

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Botbot hindi ba mas katibayan itong inilatag ko na hindi po therapy ang pagbugbog kasi may karapatan ang babae at hindi puwedeng ginagawang punching bag.

4:128. If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do.

4:129. Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire: But turn not away (from a woman) altogether, so as to leave her (as it were) hanging (in the air). If ye come to a friendly understanding, and practise self- restraint, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.


Ito botbot, ginagawang punching bag.

[url=http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=442308
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=442308[/quote[/url]]

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Re: Mabisang Terapi: Bugbugin ang Asawa

Post by harballah on Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:38 pm

Botbot, wala parin ba iyong link ng usapin ninyo ni Shemp, inaamag na itong post ko dito.

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Nasaan naba iyong link ng usapin ninyo ni Shemp, wala paba kasi kung nandito lang sa NEW BARM ay baka ako na ang naghanap kaso ikaw ang maysabi na nag-usap kayo ni Shemp about diyan, ngayon nasaan na ang link?

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Re: Mabisang Terapi: Bugbugin ang Asawa

Post by Ateo on Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:42 pm

Harballah, bakit ang ganda kung basahin natin sa Hadith, pero iba ang nababasa natin sa mga pahayagan? Bakit hindi nagresulta ang Hadith ng mas malakas na pagkilalala sa karapatan ng mga kababaihan at mga asawang babae? Is there a missing part of the picture? The Arabic culture perhaps?

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Re: Mabisang Terapi: Bugbugin ang Asawa

Post by harballah on Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:32 am

Ateo wrote:Harballah, bakit ang ganda kung basahin natin sa Hadith, pero iba ang nababasa natin sa mga pahayagan? Bakit hindi nagresulta ang Hadith ng mas malakas na pagkilalala sa karapatan ng mga kababaihan at mga asawang babae? Is there a missing part of the picture? The Arabic culture perhaps?

Kasi ang nababasa mo sa pahayagan ay yaong ginagawa ng hindi alam ang tunay na turo sa Islam, iyon nakakaalam ng turo ng Islam ay hindi nababalita sa pahayagan ganoon lang po iyon kasimple.

Tulad sa nakasaad sa bibliya ng kristiyanismo, ang sabi ay "kapag sinampal ka sa kaliwa ibigay mo ang kabila" bakit hindi rin makikita sa mga kristiyano bagkus ang nakikita natin ay ang mga krimen o tapunan ng baho ng mga pulitiko.

In fact, bago pa dumating ang Islam ay naging gawi na ito ng mga paganong quraishi na mababasa sa tingin nila ang babae, kaya nga ng dumating ang Islam ay ipinahayag ng Allah subhana wa taalah ang Suratul Nisah or Chapter for Women, ngunit bagaman nandiyan na ang kasulatan o kapahayagan ng Allah ay nakakapit parin sa kultura ng mga arabo ang gawin ito pero hindi ibig sabihin ay iyan nga ang turo sa Islam.

Ako bilang born Muslim sa Mindanao ay hindi ko nararanasan na saktan ng magulang ko ang aking ina at hindi rin nagawang saktan ang asawa ko, basi sa pag-aaral ay sino ba ang higit na madaling manakit sa kanilang mga asawa hindi ba iyong mismong 90% ay kristiyano sa pinas, pero hindi ko sinasabing lahat sila ay nananakit pero kung pagbabasihan ang araw-araw na balita ay nasa kanila matatagpuan ito.

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Re: Mabisang Terapi: Bugbugin ang Asawa

Post by Ateo on Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:44 am

Kung maglalakad kayo ng asawa mo, sabay ba kayo o medyo huli siya ng konti? Just checking.

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Post by harballah on Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:34 am

Ateo wrote:Kung maglalakad kayo ng asawa mo, sabay ba kayo o medyo huli siya ng konti? Just checking.

Sabay kami, pero kapag makipot ang daan ay paminsan-minsan ay nauuna ako kasi mas mabilis akong lumakad.

Wala ka ng komento doon sa nabanggit ko Ateo?

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Post by BibleBot on Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:35 am

Ateo wrote:Harballah, bakit ang ganda kung basahin natin sa Hadith, pero iba ang nababasa natin sa mga pahayagan? Bakit hindi nagresulta ang Hadith ng mas malakas na pagkilalala sa karapatan ng mga kababaihan at mga asawang babae? Is there a missing part of the picture? The Arabic culture perhaps?

salamat po at medyo nakukuha nyo na ang puntos sa sinulid na ito

ang nais lamang kasing ipaliwanag dito na sinasangayunan ng kanilang iskolar gamit ang koran na isa ngang mabisang terapi ang umbagin ang asawa
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link ng usapin ninyo ni Shemp, nasaan na biblebot aka Junny

Post by harballah on Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:07 pm

Botbot tutal kinowt mo ang sabi ni Ateo, ito ang sagot ko kay Ateo at ikaw ang bahala kung komentuhan mo at nandito lang ako, pero sana huwag mong kalimutan iyong link kung saan nag-usap kayo ni Shemp sa OLD BARM.


harballah wrote:

Kasi ang nababasa mo sa pahayagan ay yaong ginagawa ng hindi alam ang tunay na turo sa Islam, iyon nakakaalam ng turo ng Islam ay hindi nababalita sa pahayagan ganoon lang po iyon kasimple.

Tulad sa nakasaad sa bibliya ng kristiyanismo, ang sabi ay "kapag sinampal ka sa kaliwa ibigay mo ang kabila" bakit hindi rin makikita sa mga kristiyano bagkus ang nakikita natin ay ang mga krimen o tapunan ng baho ng mga pulitiko.

In fact, bago pa dumating ang Islam ay naging gawi na ito ng mga paganong quraishi na mababasa sa tingin nila ang babae, kaya nga ng dumating ang Islam ay ipinahayag ng Allah subhana wa taalah ang Suratul Nisah or Chapter for Women, ngunit bagaman nandiyan na ang kasulatan o kapahayagan ng Allah ay nakakapit parin sa kultura ng mga arabo ang gawin ito pero hindi ibig sabihin ay iyan nga ang turo sa Islam.

Ako bilang born Muslim sa Mindanao ay hindi ko nararanasan na saktan ng magulang ko ang aking ina at hindi rin nagawang saktan ang asawa ko, basi sa pag-aaral ay sino ba ang higit na madaling manakit sa kanilang mga asawa hindi ba iyong mismong 90% ay kristiyano sa pinas, pero hindi ko sinasabing lahat sila ay nananakit pero kung pagbabasihan ang araw-araw na balita ay nasa kanila matatagpuan ito.

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Post by harballah on Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:08 pm

Huwag mo rin sanang kalimutan ito kasi matagal ng napapanis sa kahihintay sa inyo.

Harballah wrote:Botbot hindi ba mas katibayan itong inilatag ko na hindi po therapy ang pagbugbog kasi may karapatan ang babae at hindi puwedeng ginagawang punching bag.

4:128. If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do.

4:129. Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire: But turn not away (from a woman) altogether, so as to leave her (as it were) hanging (in the air). If ye come to a friendly understanding, and practise self- restraint, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.


Ito botbot, ginagawang punching bag.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=442308[/quote]

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Post by BibleBot on Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:53 am

taktikang talon talata ka kasi harballah

pagusapan natin muna ang talata sa koran na pinagbatayan ng inyong iskolar na isa sa lunas o terapi ang umbagin ang asawang pasaway
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Post by harballah on Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:04 am

BibleBot wrote:taktikang talon talata ka kasi harballah

pagusapan natin muna ang talata sa koran na pinagbatayan ng inyong iskolar na isa sa lunas o terapi ang umbagin ang asawang pasaway

Hindi taktikang talon-talon iyan kundi isang post ko na tinakasan mo, pangalawa pa ay hindi mo parin naibigay ang link ng usapin ninyo ni Shemp, nasaan naba?


Hayaan mong habol-habulin ka nito para sa ganoon ay matutunan mo naman sagutin ang post ko.

Harballah wrote:
Botbot hindi ba mas katibayan itong inilatag ko na hindi po therapy ang pagbugbog kasi may karapatan ang babae at hindi puwedeng ginagawang punching bag.

4:128. If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do.

4:129. Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire: But turn not away (from a woman) altogether, so as to leave her (as it were) hanging (in the air). If ye come to a friendly understanding, and practise self- restraint, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.


Ito botbot, ginagawang punching bag.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=442308

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Post by BibleBot on Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:24 am

harballah wrote:

Hindi taktikang talon-talon iyan kundi isang post ko na tinakasan mo, pangalawa pa ay hindi mo parin naibigay ang link ng usapin ninyo ni Shemp, nasaan naba?


Hayaan mong habol-habulin ka nito para sa ganoon ay matutunan mo naman sagutin ang post ko.


ang layo talaga kasi ng tinalon mo

tapos pag nasisita ko ang taktikang iwas mo eh namemersonal ka na

pagusapan muna natin ang talata na ginamit ng inyong iskolar para patunayan na terapi nga na umbagin ang asawang pasaway
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Post by bench on Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:24 pm

harballah wrote:Botbot, ang sagot ni clowns ay "sino namang scholar ang may sabing therapy ang pambubugbog, kung meron man e tutol ako, hindi naman komo scholar e sigurado nang honest o kaya e sigurado nang hindi nagkakamali e, kaya nga may Quran para bilang guidance at may patunay sila sa sinasabi nila. " kasi itong inilatag ko kay Gin ang kasagutan at hindi ang Iskolar.





Ngayon kailan mo talaga balak sagutin ito kasi puro ka propaganda pero ayaw mong sumagot.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=442308[/color][/url][/quote[/url]]


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Re: Mabisang Terapi: Bugbugin ang Asawa

Post by harballah on Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:09 pm

biblebot wrote:ang layo talaga kasi ng tinalon mo

tapos pag nasisita ko ang taktikang iwas mo eh namemersonal ka na

pagusapan muna natin ang talata na ginamit ng inyong iskolar para patunayan na terapi nga na umbagin ang asawang pasaway

Pakisagot naman kasi iyong unang tanong ko at pakibigay din pala iyong link ng usapin ninyo ni shemp para makita ko kung sino ka doon sa OLD BARM.

Pakisagot na kasi ito para sa ganoon ay matapos at makausad na tayo, ayaw ko naman na ikaw lang ang suntok ng suntok, dapat sumalag karin naman sa suntok namin.


harballah wrote:Botbot hindi ba mas katibayan itong inilatag ko na hindi po therapy ang pagbugbog kasi may karapatan ang babae at hindi puwedeng ginagawang punching bag.

4:128. If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do.

4:129. Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire: But turn not away (from a woman) altogether, so as to leave her (as it were) hanging (in the air). If ye come to a friendly understanding, and practise self- restraint, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.


Ito botbot, ginagawang punching bag.

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tama na naman si bro harballah. Very Happy

Matagal na niyang tinatakasan iyan bro, sana matuto naman siyang sumagot sa akin.

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Re: Mabisang Terapi: Bugbugin ang Asawa

Post by BibleBot on Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:40 pm

eh hindi mo pa nga sinasagot yung talata sa koran na nagsasabing lunas nga o terapi ang umbagin ang asawang pasaway
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Re: Mabisang Terapi: Bugbugin ang Asawa

Post by harballah on Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:20 pm

Botbot mas gusto kung sagutin mo muna ito kasi ilang beses na kitang sinasagot dito sa thread mo at pakibigay lang po iyong link ng naging usapin ninyo ni Shemp, huwag kang matakot na mabistong ikaw si Junny kasi mauunawaan naman namin kasi sanay ka naman sa kasinungalingan mo.

Wait ko na pansinin mo ito.

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Botbot hindi ba mas katibayan itong inilatag ko na hindi po therapy ang pagbugbog kasi may karapatan ang babae at hindi puwedeng ginagawang punching bag.

4:128. If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do.

4:129. Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire: But turn not away (from a woman) altogether, so as to leave her (as it were) hanging (in the air). If ye come to a friendly understanding, and practise self- restraint, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.


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http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=442308

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Re: Mabisang Terapi: Bugbugin ang Asawa

Post by BibleBot on Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:12 pm

Marami pang di nakakapanood ng bidyong ito - dapat makapanood din sila. Terapi pa naman ito.
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