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Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by Comb@tron on Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:35 pm

1 • THE CONCERN
And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea. John 9:42

Who, REALLY, is this man we affectionately call Santa Claus?
What do we REALLY know about Santa?
Is Santa just a jolly, harmless, friendly fellow?


Or is there something or someone else hiding behind jolly ol’ St. Nick?



Before we look at Santa, let us establish some basic Bible facts:
# The Bible clearly teaches a powerful, rebellious, subtle, evil being called the Devil, Lucifer or Satan.

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Revelation 12:9

# The Bible teaches Satan rebelled against God. Satan rebelled because he desires to be like God. Satan’s mission is to de-throne God and persuade mankind to rebel against God.

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Isaiah 14:12-14

# The Bible teaches Satan’s primary attack is the most vulnerable. In Luke 10:19, Jesus Christ compares Satan to lightning, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven". Lightning, like Satan, always travels the path of least resistance. The Bible also likens the devil to a "roaring lion" The lion is a predator of opportunity. The lion looks for the injured, the youngest, the smallest, or the weakest – the one with the least ability to run or fight. So it is with Satan. He is actively "seeking" those "whom he may devour".


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Where did Santa Claus come from?

Post by Comb@tron on Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:40 pm

2 • THE COMING
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 1 John 2:18

Where did Santa Claus come from?

The oft-repeated tale of Santa Claus goes like this:

According to the legend, Santa began as a fourth century Catholic bishop named Saint Nicholas. The cult of St. Nicholas was one of histories most widespread religious movements. According to St. Nicholas historian, Charles W. Jones, ". . . the cult of St. Nicholas was, before the Reformation, the most intensive of any nonbiblical saint in Christendom. . . there were 2,137 ecclesiastical dedications [churches] to Nicholas in France, Germany, and the Low Countries alone before the year 1500." (Jones, Charles. W. "Knickerbocker Santa Claus." The New-York Historical Society Quarterly, October 1954, Volume XXXVIII Number Four, p.357)

The popular book, The Christmas Almanack, states, "By the height of the Middle Ages, St. Nicholas was probably invoked in prayer more than any other figure except the Virgin Mary and Christ Himself" (Del Re, Gerard and Patricia. The Christmas Almanack. New York: Random House, 2004, p. 131)

Miraculous folklore and legend surround the mysterious St. Nicholas. Among the more popular legends of St. Nicholas is the rescue of three poverty-stricken girls destined for prostitution. These girls were poor and did not have the dowry for marriage. St. Nicholas saved them from a life of shame, by providing marriage dowries of gold. They then were able to get properly married.

Another amazing miracle in the life of St. Nicholas is the three young boys who were sadistically murdered by a wicked innkeeper. Their bodies were chopped up and preserved in pickle barrels, with the cannibalistic intent of feeding their flesh to unsuspecting house guests. Of course, the amazing St. Nicholas resurrected the boys and their mutilated bodies. And like Santa, Saint Nicholas gave gifts to poor children, hence, his veneration as Patron Saint of Children. During the Middle Ages, hundreds of plays and paintings told and re-told the amazing feats of St. Nicholas.

Next, according to legend, Santa magically appears in the Netherlands around the seventeenth century. During this time, Sinter Klaas (a.k.a. Santa Claus) was officially born. Dutch children began the tradition of placing their shoes by the fireplace on December 5, for the mystic fourth century Bishop, Saint Nicholas. (Note: In the Dutch language Saint Nicholas is "Sint Nikolass," which was shortened to "Sinter Klaas," of which the anglicized form is "Santa Claus.") The next morning, the gleeful Dutch children quickly awoke to gifts and goodies in their shoes, left by Sinter Klaas. Like today’s Santa, Sinter Klaas, miraculously, traveled from housetop to housetop, and entered through the chimney.



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The mysterious St. Nicholas.

Post by Comb@tron on Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:41 pm

The mysterious St. Nicholas.

The first major problem in the Santa Claus saga is the person of St. Nicholas. There is very little evidence, if any, that the man St. Nicholas actually existed.

Nicholas' existence is not attested by any historical document, so nothing certain is known of his life except that he was probably bishop of Myra in the fourth century. . .
("Nicholas, Saint" Encyclopaedia Britannica 99)

Nicholas, Saint (lived 4th century), Christian prelate, patron saint of Russia, traditionally associated with Christmas celebrations. The accounts of his life are confused and historically unconfirmed.
("Nicholas, Saint" Microsoft Encarta Encyclopedia 99)

Unfortunately, very little is known about the real St. Nicholas. Countless legends have grown up around this very popular saint, but very little historical evidence is available. (Del Re, Gerard and Patricia. The Christmas Almanack. New York: Random House, 2004, p. 130)

In 1969, the final nail in the coffin to the feeble fable of St. Nicholas was officially hammered down. Despite the fact, St. Nicholas is among Roman Catholicism’s most popular and venerated "Saints," Pope Paul VI officially decreed the feast of Saint Nicholas removed from the Roman Catholic calendar. UPI Wire Services reported that St. Nicholas and forty other saints were deleted because "of doubt that they ever existed." ("Pope Marches 40 Saints Off Official Church Calendar." UPI Wire Services. <www.stnicholascenter.org/Brix?pageID=389>)

Because the saint's life is so unreliably documented, Pope Paul VI ordered the feast of Saint Nicholas dropped from the official Roman Catholic calendar in 1969. ("Santa Claus" Microsoft Encarta Encyclopedia 99)
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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by Comb@tron on Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:43 pm

The original author is hidden today, but the devil’s trademark "Ho! Ho! Ho!" was common knowledge before the coming of Santa Claus.

Author Tony Renterghem, concludes his extensive research into the origin of Santa with the following statement:

I can only conclude that the original ancestor of our modern Santa Claus is none other than the mythological Dark Helper-a faint memory of Herne/Pan, the ancient shamanic nature spirit of the Olde Religion. (Renterghem, Tony van. When Santa Was a Shaman. St. Paul: Llewellyn Publications, 1995, p. 93)

Note: Herne or Pan is the horned god. It is common knowledge that Pan and Herne are popular names for Satan. The Satanic Bible lists Pan as one of the Infernal Names of Satan. (LaVey, Anton Szandor. The Satanic Bible. New York: Avon Books, Inc., 1969 p. 144)

After researching scores of books and material on the origin of Santa Claus, by far, the best book on this subject is Santa Claus, Last of the Wild Men: The Origins and Evolution of Saint Nicholas, authored by the late University of Kansas associate, Phyllis Siefker. This is no child’s book, but a scholarly exploration into the origin of Santa Claus. It is published by the prestigious McFarland Publishers, a leading publisher of reference and academic books. This book carries no Christian bias, but is simply a secular, non Christian scholastic study. With that in mind, the following analysis by Siefkler is even more alarming:

The fact is that Santa and Satan are alter egos, brothers; they have the same origin. . . On the surface, the two figures are polar opposites, but underneath they share the same parent, and both retain many of the old symbols associated with their "father" . . . From these two paths, he arrived at both the warmth of our fireplace and in the flames of hell. (Siefker, Phyllis. Santa Claus, Last of the Wild Men: The Origins and Evolution of Saint Nicholas. Jefferson: McFarland & Company, Inc., 1997, p. 6)

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THE CAUSE

Post by Comb@tron on Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:43 pm

3 • THE CAUSE

Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices. 2 Corinthians 2:11
and thou shalt call his name. . . (Matthew 1:21)

Santa.

You ever noticed how easy it is to transform "Satan" from "Santa"? Just move the "n" to the end. And presto! "Satan" appears. . . Hmmm….

An internet Google search on "Satan Claus" [not Santa Claus – but SATAN Claus] found over 1,700 hits! Obviously, there are many that tie the two together.

The rearranging of letters (called anagrams) to hide secret names or words has long been practiced in the occult. The Jewish Encyclopedia writes of the Jewish occult book called the Cabala:

The golden age for anagrams began with the Cabala. The Platonists had strange notions as to the influence of anagrammatic virtues, particularly of anagrams evolved from names of persons. It is not surprising, therefore, that the cabalists, like all the Neoplatonists, pretended to discover occult qualities in proper names and in their anagrams.
(www.jewishencyclopedia.com)

One of the most well known anagram in the occult world is the name of Sanat Kumara. Sanat is better known as Satan. Constance Cumbey, writes in her best-selling, new-age expose, The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow, ". . . they [New Agers] freely call Sanat Kumara (Satan) 'God'. And their doctrinal reference books by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky and Alice Ann Bailey freely cross-reference Sanat Kumara with Venus. In occult writings, Lucifer and Venus are one and the same."
(Constance Cumbey, The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow, p. 138)

Texe Marrs writes of 'Sanat' in Dark Secrets of the New Age:

. . . the New Age offers a being called Sanat Kumara. 'Sanat' is obviously a thinly veiled reference to Satan; nevertheless, New Age teachers evidently believe that the new spelling will alleviate the concerns of those not yet ready to confess Satan as their Lord and Messiah.
(Texe Marrs, Dark Secrets of the New Age, pp. 79-80)

Interesting. . . Where does that put Lord S-A-N-T-A?

H.P. Blavatsky, the Satanist and new age teacher writes in The Secret Doctrine:

many a mysterious sacred name. . . conveys to the profane ear no more than some ordinary, and often vulgar [common] word, because it is concealed anagrammatically or otherwise.
(H.P. Blavatsky, The Secret Doctrine, Vol II, p. 78)
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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by Comb@tron on Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:44 pm

His head and his hairs [his beard] were white like wool, as white as SNOW. . .

A perfect description of . . . Guess Who?

Who's got a beard that's long and white
Santa's got a beard that's long and white

Must be Santa Must be Santa
Must be Santa, Santa Clause

It is also . . . The Lord Jesus Christ in Revelation 1.

13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
14 His head and his hairs [BEARD] were white like wool, as white as snow;. . . Revelation 1:13-15
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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by Comb@tron on Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:47 pm

But it is just fantasy. . .
I am sure many reading this are thinking, "Aw, c'mon, Santa Claus is just fantasy. What is the big deal. Nobody takes it serious."

And that is where you are WRONG – DEAD WRONG! Those little children take their Santa very serious! They literally worship him! They believe and love Santa with all their heart!


Most parents would never teach their beautiful little children such a lie as Santa Claus. Most parents would never openly lie to their children. Especially something that is a blasphemous imposter of the Lord Jesus.

And Satan knows this.

So he disguises the lie in a nice little package of make-believe and fantasy. He creates a harmless ol' jolly fellow that just loves little children. And most parents think, "Now what could be wrong with that?"

Fantasy. . . Satan's “magic weapon.”


Satanist Anton LaVey, author of The Satanic Bible and founder of the First Church of Satan, writes fantasy is a "magic weapon" in Satanism.

"Fantasy plays an important role in any religious curriculum, for the subjective mind is less discriminating about the quality of its food than it is about the taste. . . Thus, fantasy is utilized as a magic weapon [in Satanism]. . . The Satanist maintains a storehouse of avowed fantasy gathered from all cultures and from all ages."

(Anton Szandor LaVey, The Satanic Rituals, p. 15, 27)

Lavey knows the message of Satan can be quietly preached under the mask of fantasy. Parents will allow things, such as Santa Claus, under the cloak of fantasy into their little child's tender mind that under "serious" circumstances they would never allow in a million years. It is just fantasy. But in the vulnerable mind of that little child – IT IS TRUTH!

Of course, you an dI do not take Santa serious. We know Santa Claus is fantasy. But those little children are deceived in believing "with all their heart" in a god that is a replacement for the Lord Jesus Christ.

What happens when these little children realize that Santa Claus is a lie? What happens when they later are presented with the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ? What happens when they are asked to "trust and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ"?
The following conversation of two young boys actually took place. And I am sure it has taken place many times. They were discussing the Lord Jesus Christ. Here is the conversation:

One boy asks the other, "What do you think of all this Jesus Christ stuff"? And the other boy replies, "It all sounds like another Santa Claus to me – probably just another lie."

Santa is Satan's counterfeit of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Once you get that child believing with "all their heart" in Santa then the next logical step is – Jesus and Santa they are both the same – and they are both a LIE.

Obviously, not every person that believes in Santa Claus as a child will deny the Lord Jesus Christ. The truth is, the author of this article "believed in" Santa Claus as a child. The author did not trust the Lord Jesus Christ until he was 20 years old. And furthermore, there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever, that the lie and god-like attributes of Santa Claus influenced my early doubts and confusion about the Lord Jesus Christ.

Someone once said "Jesus Christ is nothing but a Santa Claus for adults." That was my belief of Jesus Christ. . . Another Santa Claus. . . Another lie.


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Post by Comb@tron on Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:08 pm

any reactions?
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Post by element_115x on Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:13 pm

Interesting... but still, Santa is basically remembered only during Christmas time. Jesus on the other hand gets to be known almost every time of the year... so where's the competition?
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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by miss_terry on Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:11 pm

yes it is!
i definitely agree with this. Smile
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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by catholicarchie on Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:51 pm

miss_terry wrote:yes it is!
i definitely agree with this. Smile

isn't santa clause an invention of the Coca Cola Company?

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Post by miss_terry on Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:32 pm

catholicarchie wrote:

isn't santa clause an invention of the Coca Cola Company?

how do you say so?
because we always see him on the commercials?LOL
a marketing strategy whose targets are mostly young children
to impart to them that santa claus is not a myth. blah blah

but i think, the catholics were the ones who have given the title 'saint'
to Nicolas aka Santa Claus. hmm?
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Post by harballah on Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:03 am

element_115x wrote:Interesting... but still, Santa is basically remembered only during Christmas time. Jesus on the other hand gets to be known almost every time of the year... so where's the competition?

Many childrens admired Santa Claus...........and played the songs "Santa Claus is coming to town".

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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by Comb@tron on Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:20 am

element_115x wrote:Interesting... but still, Santa is basically remembered only during Christmas time. Jesus on the other hand gets to be known almost every time of the year... so where's the competition?

hellow lumalabas na si santa claus ay omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent na Diyos lang ang meron, na dedeceive ni santa claus ang mga bata

read this lahat po nandyan na http://www.av1611.org/othpubls/santa.html

refer to post #7
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Post by Comb@tron on Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:23 am

harballah wrote:Many childrens admired Santa Claus...........and played the songs "Santa Claus is coming to town".

oo nga harbs read this

At Christmas time, little children believe in the blessed hope and the glorious appearing of Santa with every fiber of their soul. And why not, the ones they trust the most, mommy and daddy, are preaching this message in their little ears, over and over. Santa is coming! Santa is coming! And everywhere they go – the mall, the store, school – the gospel of the glorious appearing of Santa is proclaimed! Everywhere they look! Santa is coming! Santa is coming!

Oh! You better watch out,
You better not cry,
You better not pout,
I'm telling you why:
Santa Claus is coming to town!

Here comes Santa Claus!. . .
What a beautiful sight.
All is merry and bright.

Hang your stockings and say your prayers,
'Cause Santa Claus comes tonight
Jump in bed, cover up your head,
'Cause Santa Claus comes tonight
So let's give thanks to the Lord above
'Cause Santa Claus comes tonight,

Who comes around on a special night
Santa comes around on a special night
Who very soon will come our way
Santa very soon will come our way


What a cruel mockery of the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ.

1 John 2:28
And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

James 5:8
Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.


biro mo parehas na ng power ang Diyos at si Santa clause

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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by Comb@tron on Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:31 am

catholicarchie wrote:

isn't santa clause an invention of the Coca Cola Company?

miss_terry wrote:

how do you say so?
because we always see him on the commercials?LOL
a marketing strategy whose targets are mostly young children
to impart to them that santa claus is not a myth. blah blah

but i think, the catholics were the ones who have given the title 'saint'
to Nicolas aka Santa Claus. hmm?

post #2 please


According to the legend, Santa began as a fourth century Catholic bishop named Saint Nicholas. The cult of St. Nicholas
was one of histories most widespread religious movements. According to
St. Nicholas historian, Charles W. Jones, ". . . the cult of St.
Nicholas was, before the Reformation, the most intensive of any nonbiblical saint in Christendom.
. . there were 2,137 ecclesiastical dedications [churches] to Nicholas
in France, Germany, and the Low Countries alone before the year 1500."
(Jones, Charles. W. "Knickerbocker Santa Claus." The New-York Historical Society Quarterly, October 1954, Volume XXXVIII Number Four, p.357)

The popular book, The Christmas Almanack, states, "By the height of the Middle Ages, St. Nicholas was probably invoked in prayer more than any other figure except the Virgin Mary and Christ Himself" (Del Re, Gerard and Patricia. The Christmas Almanack. New York: Random House, 2004, p. 131)
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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by gin on Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:43 am

Boring ang Christmas pag wala si Santa Claus...
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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by Mojako on Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:36 am

Si Santa Claus e gawa gawa o imbento di naman nag-eexist si Santa nag-cocostume lang yun pag buwan ng December..
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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by vril on Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:44 am

Comb@tron wrote:

hellow lumalabas na si santa claus ay omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent na Diyos lang ang meron, na dedeceive ni santa claus ang mga bata

read this lahat po nandyan na http://www.av1611.org/othpubls/santa.html

refer to post #7

I would say you have had too much religion.... lol!...loosen up.

Everyone loves santa for christ's sake lol!

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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by BibleBot on Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:20 pm

yung mga bata pinaglolo-loko lang ng mga santa na yun di naman totoo
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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by Comb@tron on Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:06 pm

^^ oo nga eh, pakibasa na lang eto, previous post ko

Comb@tron wrote:

oo nga harbs read this

At Christmas time, little children believe in the blessed hope and the glorious appearing of Santa with every fiber of their soul. And why not, the ones they trust the most, mommy and daddy, are preaching this message in their little ears, over and over. Santa is coming! Santa is coming! And everywhere they go – the mall, the store, school – the gospel of the glorious appearing of Santa is proclaimed! Everywhere they look! Santa is coming! Santa is coming!

Oh! You better watch out,
You better not cry,
You better not pout,
I'm telling you why:
Santa Claus is coming to town!

Here comes Santa Claus!. . .
What a beautiful sight.
All is merry and bright.

Hang your stockings and say your prayers,
'Cause Santa Claus comes tonight
Jump in bed, cover up your head,
'Cause Santa Claus comes tonight
So let's give thanks to the Lord above
'Cause Santa Claus comes tonight,

Who comes around on a special night
Santa comes around on a special night
Who very soon will come our way
Santa very soon will come our way


What a cruel mockery of the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ.

1 John 2:28
And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

James 5:8
Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.


biro mo parehas na ng power ang Diyos at si Santa clause

http://www.av1611.org/othpubls/santa.html
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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by Comb@tron on Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:22 pm

^^ tsk tsk read my post please

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I would say you have had too much religion.... lol!...loosen up.

Everyone loves santa for christ's sake lol!
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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by Ateo on Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:34 pm

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha



Lagot kayo

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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by element_115x on Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:51 pm

Comb@tron wrote:

hellow lumalabas na si santa claus ay omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent na Diyos lang ang meron, na dedeceive ni santa claus ang mga bata

read this lahat po nandyan na http://www.av1611.org/othpubls/santa.html

refer to post #7

So, may sumasamba na ba kay Santa Claus? May simbahan ba o templo si Santa? Where's the competition really with Jesus? Razz

Pero mas bilib ako kay Santa, kasi sa season nya may Christmas bonus ang lahat! hehe
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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by Gordon on Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:48 pm

This is a bogus issue. The popular image of Santa Claus is a product of American culture and American protestantism.

This thread should either be moved or locked.
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