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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by Liway on Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:56 pm

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So, may sumasamba na ba kay Santa Claus? May simbahan ba o templo si Santa? Where's the competition really with Jesus? Razz

Pero mas bilib ako kay Santa, kasi sa season nya may Christmas bonus ang lahat! hehe

Yes there are people who worship Mrs. Santa Claus. Those people are kinda' bopolistic minded like the thread starter. hi hi hi Imagine look imagine again and stop for a while... I cannot dig and grasp the idea behind this very very silly thread, the joiners here are actually illogical people! Imagine The thread starter cannot even proved to anyone what is the gender of Santa Claus and yet she bashfully challenging my highly intellectual brain to participate in this non realistic manequin thread!pwee.

Proved first to me the gender of Santa claus is he HE or is she SHE or most ecxitingly oxo moron gay?
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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by miss_terry on Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:51 pm

Bakit naman po kailangang alamin pa ang gender?
Does the gender matters?
Para kasing ang lalim ng discussions
tapos biglang babaw.
Hehe

@ Gordon,
sinisi pa ang mga Kano. LOL

we can see how people celebrates
christmas in a pagan way,
samahan mo pa ng santa claus.
what a great combination hindi ba?
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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by gin on Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:35 am

Liway wrote:

Yes there are people who worship Mrs. Santa Claus. Those people are kinda' bopolistic minded like the thread starter. hi hi hi Imagine look imagine again and stop for a while... I cannot dig and grasp the idea behind this very very silly thread, the joiners here are actually illogical people! Imagine The thread starter cannot even proved to anyone what is the gender of Santa Claus and yet she bashfully challenging my highly intellectual brain to participate in this non realistic manequin thread!pwee.

Proved first to me the gender of Santa claus is he HE or is she SHE or most ecxitingly oxo moron gay?

And that includes you! Welcome to the club!
Gender, eh?
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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by gin on Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:37 am

miss_terry wrote:Bakit naman po kailangang alamin pa ang gender?
Does the gender matters?
Para kasing ang lalim ng discussions
tapos biglang babaw.
Hehe

@ Gordon,
sinisi pa ang mga Kano. LOL

we can see how people celebrates
christmas in a pagan way,
samahan mo pa ng santa claus.
what a great combination hindi ba?

Hindi naman nila alam na mala-pagano pala ang Christmas celebration, eh. Okay lang 'yon
It's the thought that counts, 'ika nga nila
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Post by Comb@tron on Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:59 am

Gordon wrote:This is a bogus issue. The popular image of Santa Claus is a product of American culture and American protestantism.

This thread should either be moved or locked.


bogus isse? ?? move? locked? refer to this site please and read it carefully http://www.av1611.org/othpubls/santa.html



According to the legend, Santa began as a fourth century CATHOLIC BISHOP named Saint Nicholas. The cult of St. Nicholas
was one of histories most widespread religious movements. According to
St. Nicholas historian, Charles W. Jones, ". . . the cult of St.
Nicholas was, before the Reformation, the most intensive of any nonbiblical saint in Christendom.
. . there were 2,137 ecclesiastical dedications [churches] to Nicholas
in France, Germany, and the Low Countries alone before the year 1500."
(Jones, Charles. W. "Knickerbocker Santa Claus." The New-York Historical Society Quarterly, October 1954, Volume XXXVIII Number Four, p.357)

The popular book, The Christmas Almanack, states, "By the height of the Middle Ages, St. Nicholas was probably invoked in prayer more than any other figure except the Virgin Mary and Christ Himself" (Del Re, Gerard and Patricia. The Christmas Almanack. New York: Random House, 2004, p. 131)
http://www.av1611.org/othpubls/santa.html
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Post by harballah on Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:20 am

Anyway, papaano nga pala iyong nakiki-santa claus bakit nila ito ginagawa kung alam pala nilang hindi ito tutuo

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Post by gin on Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:22 am

harballah wrote:Anyway, papaano nga pala iyong nakiki-santa claus bakit nila ito ginagawa kung alam pala nilang hindi ito tutuo

Cute kasi si Santa
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Post by harballah on Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:26 am

Hay! naku naalaala ko noong nasa grade school ako na kapag pasko ay mayroon pumapasyal na santa claus kuno, akala ko nga tutuo then nakikisali siya sa laro. Wala akong ideya kung ano ang pasko at kung tutuo o hindi si Santa Claus, nag-enjoy lang. But ngayon ay nalaman ko na hindi tutuo ang pasko at santa claus kaya sorry lang sa mag-imbita sa akin ng selebrasyon ng pasko kasi hindi ako makaka-attend.

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Post by gin on Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:29 am

harballah wrote:Hay! naku naalaala ko noong nasa grade school ako na kapag pasko ay mayroon pumapasyal na santa claus kuno, akala ko nga tutuo then nakikisali siya sa laro. Wala akong ideya kung ano ang pasko at kung tutuo o hindi si Santa Claus, nag-enjoy lang. But ngayon ay nalaman ko na hindi tutuo ang pasko at santa claus kaya sorry lang sa mag-imbita sa akin ng selebrasyon ng pasko kasi hindi ako makaka-attend.

Okay lang po 'yon. Ang mga bata po talaga ay sadyang utu-uto at mababaw ang kaligayahan. Pero pag tumuntong na sila sa tamang edad, doon nila nalalaman ang katotohahan.

Attend po kayo sa mga Christmas party. Libre po food
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Post by harballah on Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:32 am

Gin wrote:Attend po kayo sa mga Christmas party. Libre po food

Naku hindi ako puwede sa Christmas party pero puwede po ako sa pina-plano ni Freds na second EB basta lang walang alak at walang baboy

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Post by gin on Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:36 am

harballah wrote:

Naku hindi ako puwede sa Christmas party pero puwede po ako sa pina-plano ni Freds na second EB basta lang walang alak at walang baboy

Ay, oo nga pala. Bawal pala pork... hipon... beans--
Sana available ako sa second EB. Para makuha ko na sokoleyt ko sa inyo
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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by miss_terry on Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:54 am

Comb@tron wrote:


The rearranging of letters (called anagrams) to hide secret names or words has long been practiced in the occult. The Jewish Encyclopedia writes of the Jewish occult book called the Cabala:

The golden age for anagrams began with the Cabala. The Platonists had strange notions as to the influence of anagrammatic virtues, particularly of anagrams evolved from names of persons. It is not surprising, therefore, that the cabalists, like all the Neoplatonists, pretended to discover occult qualities in proper names and in their anagrams.
(www.jewishencyclopedia.com)

One of the most well known anagram in the occult world is the name of Sanat Kumara. Sanat is better known as Satan. Constance Cumbey, writes in her best-selling, new-age expose, The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow, ". . . they [New Agers] freely call Sanat Kumara (Satan) 'God'. And their doctrinal reference books by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky and Alice Ann Bailey freely cross-reference Sanat Kumara with Venus. In occult writings, Lucifer and Venus are one and the same."
(Constance Cumbey, The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow, p. 138)

Texe Marrs writes of 'Sanat' in Dark Secrets of the New Age:

. . . the New Age offers a being called Sanat Kumara. 'Sanat' is obviously a thinly veiled reference to Satan; nevertheless, New Age teachers evidently believe that the new spelling will alleviate the concerns of those not yet ready to confess Satan as their Lord and Messiah.
(Texe Marrs, Dark Secrets of the New Age, pp. 79-80)

Interesting. . . Where does that put Lord S-A-N-T-A?

H.P. Blavatsky, the Satanist and new age teacher writes in The Secret Doctrine:

many a mysterious sacred name. . . conveys to the profane ear no more than some ordinary, and often vulgar [common] word, because it is concealed anagrammatically or otherwise.
(H.P. Blavatsky, The Secret Doctrine, Vol II, p. 78)

kung pagbabatayan natin ang occult meaning of word or even number, thru cabala,
may posibilidad na itinatago nga sa pangalang santa claus ang 'satanas'.
sa pagpapakilala sa atin ni satanas bilang santa claus
ay isa ding paraan ng pagsulong ng new age movement.
si santa claus in contrary sa nakilala nating satanas
ay magiliw, entertaining, mapagbigay, etc....
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Post by adanedhel on Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:04 am

3 pages on Santa Claus and the fire rages...flame on!
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Post by harballah on Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:40 am

gin wrote:

Ay, oo nga pala. Bawal pala pork... hipon... beans--
Sana available ako sa second EB. Para makuha ko na sokoleyt ko sa inyo

Actually Gin ang hipon ay puwede po sa akin kasi baboy lang po ang hindi puwede hehehe!

Huwag kang mag-alala nasa iyo naman ang numero ko at nasa akin ang numero mo kaya makukuha mo ang tsokolate, ano nga bang klaseng tsokolate ang gusto mo para maihanda ko bago ako mag-travel.

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Post by gin on Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:18 am

Ba't nga naman 'santa', ano...
Bading ba si St. Nicholas?
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Re: Santa Claus THE GREAT IMPOSTER (Santa or Satan)

Post by gin on Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:21 am

harballah wrote:

Actually Gin ang hipon ay puwede po sa akin kasi baboy lang po ang hindi puwede hehehe!

Huwag kang mag-alala nasa iyo naman ang numero ko at nasa akin ang numero mo kaya makukuha mo ang tsokolate, ano nga bang klaseng tsokolate ang gusto mo para maihanda ko bago ako mag-travel.

Iwasan n'yo na rin po ang hipon at beans. Iwas-memory gap

At tungkol naman po sa sokoleyt ko, any sort of chocolate will do. Pero mas maganda kung dark and bitter siya. I like mapait na sokoleyts with almonds inside!
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Post by Liway on Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:11 am

BibleBot wrote:yung mga bata pinaglolo-loko lang ng mga santa na yun di naman totoo

aba aba nagsalita ang mga lugaw na sekta pweee! pati si Santa Claus pinapatulan, bakeeet braaad naubos na ba ang mga "pagmumura doctrine ninyo sa mga Priest" ha kaya kay Santa Claus mo na lang binabaling ha? mga inbisibol relationship church nga naman kahit inbisibol naaamoy pa rin ang pagiging peke pweee!
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Post by Liway on Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:13 am

Mojako wrote:Si Santa Claus e gawa gawa o imbento di naman nag-eexist si Santa nag-cocostume lang yun pag buwan ng December..

buti pa ang mga alagad ni soriano may brain pweee ,mga imbisibol church wala! hi hi hi
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Post by Liway on Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:18 am

miss_terry wrote:Bakit naman po kailangang alamin pa ang gender?
Does the gender matters?
Para kasing ang lalim ng discussions
tapos biglang babaw.
Hehe

@ Gordon,
sinisi pa ang mga Kano. LOL

we can see how people celebrates
christmas in a pagan way,
samahan mo pa ng santa claus.
what a great combination hindi ba?

what kind of shallow and hollowed brain question is that!!! pweee Andaming naglilipanang mga bading dito naka salamin pa hindi mo ba aalamin ang gender? Ikaw ba pag naampon ng tiyanak hindi mo ba aalamin ang gender ha! think first before you answer me!!!!!

And by the way your make up is very very very thick! pa plastic surgery ka kaya " to hide the giant pimples in your face!!!
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Post by Gordon on Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:58 am

Bro, you need to re-assess the info quality of your sources. Catholic doctrine does not espouse Santa Claus, reindeer or Christmas trees. It is an anglo-american tradition. We have this tradition in the Philippines because we were an American colony.



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bogus isse? ?? move? locked? refer to this site please and read it carefully http://www.av1611.org/othpubls/santa.html



According to the legend, Santa began as a fourth century CATHOLIC BISHOP named Saint Nicholas. The cult of St. Nicholas
was one of histories most widespread religious movements. According to
St. Nicholas historian, Charles W. Jones, ". . . the cult of St.
Nicholas was, before the Reformation, the most intensive of any nonbiblical saint in Christendom.
. . there were 2,137 ecclesiastical dedications [churches] to Nicholas
in France, Germany, and the Low Countries alone before the year 1500."
(Jones, Charles. W. "Knickerbocker Santa Claus." The New-York Historical Society Quarterly, October 1954, Volume XXXVIII Number Four, p.357)

The popular book, The Christmas Almanack, states, "By the height of the Middle Ages, St. Nicholas was probably invoked in prayer more than any other figure except the Virgin Mary and Christ Himself" (Del Re, Gerard and Patricia. The Christmas Almanack. New York: Random House, 2004, p. 131)
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Post by adanedhel on Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:04 pm

Kaya nga natutuwa ako eh, di man lang tumama sa Catholic Church mga banat nila. Kaninong doktrina kaya iyang Santa Claus? Hahaha
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Post by element_115x on Fri Aug 06, 2010 5:00 pm

gin wrote:

Okay lang po 'yon. Ang mga bata po talaga ay sadyang utu-uto at mababaw ang kaligayahan. Pero pag tumuntong na sila sa tamang edad, doon nila nalalaman ang katotohahan.

Santa Claus is ok, at least no one starts wars, or fight wars in his name, right? Razz Santa is a symbol for giving.
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Post by fredms3 on Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:34 pm

adanedhel wrote:Kaya nga natutuwa ako eh, di man lang tumama sa Catholic Church mga banat nila. Kaninong doktrina kaya iyang Santa Claus? Hahaha

Itanong mo yan brad kay kapatid na Combat...

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Post by gin on Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:15 am

element_115x wrote:

Santa Claus is ok, at least no one starts wars, or fight wars in his name, right? Razz Santa is a symbol for giving.

Tama ka diyan, Kuya Element
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Post by Shon on Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:54 am

Yan diretsahan na naman tayo sa Santa Iglesia Katolika. Imbento ng Coca Cola si Santa Clause.

but i think, the catholics were the ones who have given the title 'saint'
to Nicolas aka Santa Claus. hmm?

Eh Ms. Terry, ano po bang kinalaman ni San Nikolas ke Santa Clause. Hindi naman di ba kaming mga Katoliko ang nagbigay ng titolong "Santa" ke Santa Clause. Nirerefer siya ng mga Katoliko bilang San Nikolas hindi Santa Clause. Kaya nga walang mga Santa Clause sa mga Simbahan eh.
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