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Did God create evil/devil?

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Did God create evil/devil?

Post by fredms3 on Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:03 am

An interesting topic indeed...You may throw your net now

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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by gin on Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:52 am

fredms3 wrote:An interesting topic indeed...You may throw your net now

Yes.
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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by MarcCatholic on Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:24 am

May tanong po ako. May nabasa po akong verse dati na hindi raw batid ni God na papasok daw ang kamatayan sa mundo. Ano po kaya yon?
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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by Mojako on Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:28 am

Hindi po sya ang may gawa ng kasamaan bagkus kabutihan si Satanas lang po ang nagpaka-sama or naging masama kahit sila Anghel my FREE WILL din sila...
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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by gin on Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:37 am

MarcCatholic wrote:May tanong po ako. May nabasa po akong verse dati na hindi raw batid ni God na papasok daw ang kamatayan sa mundo. Ano po kaya yon?

Hindi batid?
I thought all-knowing si God?
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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by gin on Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:38 am

Mojako wrote:Hindi po sya ang may gawa ng kasamaan bagkus kabutihan si Satanas lang po ang nagpaka-sama or naging masama kahit sila Anghel my FREE WILL din sila...

Akala ko rin He created all things?
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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by fredms3 on Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:03 pm

MarcCatholic wrote:May tanong po ako. May nabasa po akong verse dati na hindi raw batid ni God na papasok daw ang kamatayan sa mundo. Ano po kaya yon?

God has nothing to do with evil, yan ang alam ko Marc, but yung di niya alam na papasok ang kamatayan ay alam ni God yan.

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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by miss_terry on Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:52 pm

Naisip ko din yan. If God created everything, saklaw nya din ba ang pag-likha ng kasamaan?
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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by gin on Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:52 am

Answers... anyone...?
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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by Ateo on Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:18 am

I think God has killed more people than any other persons/causes. He also promised or threatened to kill billions more. The Bible recorded that He killed babies, young children, and elderly.

That to me is the definition of Evil. Yes, baka di lang siya ang nag-create ng Evil, baka twin niya yun? In some cultures, Evil gods did exist, such as Hades in Greek ancient religion.

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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by fredms3 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:31 am

Okies, Ateo, believed that God did create evil...

Any other comment.

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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by vril on Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:06 am

God created evil...Isaiah 45:7

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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by fredms3 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:50 am

vril wrote:God created evil...Isaiah 45:7


What kind of evil do you think Vril is being said in the verse?

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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by vril on Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:42 pm

fredms3 wrote:

What kind of evil do you think Vril is being said in the verse?

are there kinds of evil?

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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by element_115x on Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:48 pm

As long as something causes great stress, distress, inconvenience, etc... that's evil. Razz
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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by fredms3 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:08 pm

vril wrote:

are there kinds of evil?

Here's the verse bro:
Isaiah 45:7 (New International Version)


7 I form the light and create darkness,
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the LORD, do all these things.

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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by fredms3 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:09 pm

element_115x wrote:As long as something causes great stress, distress, inconvenience, etc... that's evil. Razz

Which means the evil of sufferings, right bro?

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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by Jewel on Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:29 pm

gin wrote:Answers... anyone...?

My answer is that God ultimately is the creator of evil because there is only one creator and originator of all, and that is God. Therefore the answer is a big YES!

I am amazed by the answers of my christian friends; they are not sure about their theology -

........Followup question gin...............?
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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by gin on Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:10 pm

Jewel wrote:

My answer is that God ultimately is the creator of evil because there is only one creator and originator of all, and that is God. Therefore the answer is a big YES!

I am amazed by the answers of my christian friends; they are not sure about their theology -

........Followup question gin...............?

Hmmm... wala na po
Thanks.

Sana mga Christians naman dine ang maghain ng sagot nila...
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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by fredms3 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:32 pm

Jewel wrote:

My answer is that God ultimately is the creator of evil because there is only one creator and originator of all, and that is God. Therefore the answer is a big YES!

I am amazed by the answers of my christian friends; they are not sure about their theology -

........Followup question gin...............?

Is that answer from Quran bro?

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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by MarcCatholic on Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:43 pm

Jewel, do you mean, God is the root of evils also since He allows people to be murderers because of the evil he created? Alangan namang bigla nalang haggang evil lang ang gagawin niya tapos bahal na kung may tatangkilik doon sa ginawa nya. Incomplete yon kung ganun diba? Eversince He's aware of the kind of evil that he's "done" that's going to happen in the future if I get your "theology". LOL.
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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by fredms3 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:52 pm

MarcCatholic wrote:Jewel, do you mean, God is the root of evils also since He allows people to be murderers because of the evil he created? Alangan namang bigla nalang haggang evil lang ang gagawin niya tapos bahal na kung may tatangkilik doon sa ginawa nya. Incomplete yon kung ganun diba? Eversince He's aware of the kind of evil that he's "done" that's going to happen in the future if I get your "theology". LOL.

Actually Marc, dyan sasabit si Jewel later on.

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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by vril on Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:13 am

fredms3 wrote:

Here's the verse bro:
Isaiah 45:7 (New International Version)


7 I form the light and create darkness,
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the LORD, do all these things.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, KJV)

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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by vril on Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:14 am

Jewel wrote:

My answer is that God ultimately is the creator of evil because there is only one creator and originator of all, and that is God. Therefore the answer is a big YES!

I am amazed by the answers of my christian friends; they are not sure about their theology -

........Followup question gin...............?


right on the forehead.

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Re: Did God create evil/devil?

Post by Ateo on Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:18 am

vril wrote:

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, KJV)


Bakit magka-iba ang content ng verse ng NIV ni Fred as KJV ni Vril? Was this verse so embarassing that the newer NIV tried to doctor it? Just curious.

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