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    Post by Liway on Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:58 pm

    A Christian teacher tried to correct some young children who were openly expressing hatred and the desire to kill Christians.

    He found no support from the administration of the school. If a Christian -- God forbid -- ever said the same thing about a Muslim, it would be recognized as sinful and unlawful.

    But for some reason there is a bias against Christians, in favor of Muslims, that permits this type of expression of murderous hatred.

    Talaga nga naman ang mga muslim sa resulta at gawa kitang kita na walang matinong gawa! sabi nga pala ito ng taga RFP!!!

    pahimagas iyan Jewel magkaugali na kayo ni CathArchie! by the way may post din ako para sa mga non christian Catholiscism board! At least na exposed ko na ang mga behavior ng mga RCC he he he thank you Liway Inday of RFP.

    http://relihiyon.10.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=28126#28126
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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by Jewel on Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:03 pm

    Liway wrote:A Christian teacher tried to correct some young children who were openly expressing hatred and the desire to kill Christians.

    He found no support from the administration of the school. If a Christian -- God forbid -- ever said the same thing about a Muslim, it would be recognized as sinful and unlawful.

    But for some reason there is a bias against Christians, in favor of Muslims, that permits this type of expression of murderous hatred.

    Talaga nga naman ang mga muslim sa resulta at gawa kitang kita na walang matinong gawa! sabi nga pala ito ng taga RFP!!!

    pahimagas iyan Jewel magkaugali na kayo ni CathArchie! by the way may post din ako para sa mga non christian Catholiscism board! At least na exposed ko na ang mga behavior ng mga RCC he he he thank you Liway Inday of RFP.

    http://relihiyon.10.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=28126#28126


    source ay PEKE hehhehe

    ano yan, http://relihiyon tagalog, gawang pinas peke hehhehehe
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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by Liway on Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:33 pm

    duling ka nga! tignan mo yung link ng diyaryo sa post ni chiTEO. peke ba iyan ha! nakakatawang muslim ito. hak hak hak
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    Post by Jewel on Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:18 pm

    Liway wrote:duling ka nga! tignan mo yung link ng diyaryo sa post ni chiTEO. peke ba iyan ha! nakakatawang muslim ito. hak hak hak

    Saan ka ba nag-aral, basihan mo diyaryo? hehhehe

    atsaka bakit post ni chitoy ang nilagay at hindi yung diyaryo, jerjer ka pala hehehhe
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    Post by RavlaM on Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:56 pm

    Jewel wrote:

    Saan ka ba nag-aral, basihan mo diyaryo? hehhehe

    atsaka bakit post ni chitoy ang nilagay at hindi yung diyaryo, jerjer ka pala hehehhe

    Muslim ka ba Jewel? Halata sa pananalita!
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    Post by harballah on Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:31 am

    RavlaM wrote:

    Muslim ka ba Jewel? Halata sa pananalita!

    Bakit anong pananalita ni Jewel kaya nasabi mong Muslim ba siya, kilala mo ba si Liway kung sino siya.

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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by BibleBot on Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:47 am

    infairness ke liway mukhang interesting naman ang paksa na binukasan nya dito

    kaso ang di lang ako pabor sa kanya eh kung paano ang approach nya sa mga kaibigan nating muslim
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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by Liway on Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:25 pm

    BibleBot wrote:infairness ke liway mukhang interesting naman ang paksa na binukasan nya dito

    kaso ang di lang ako pabor sa kanya eh kung paano ang approach nya sa mga kaibigan nating muslim

    kase pre guilty ka sa SUPER TITHES! kaya tumabi tabi ka muna naalibadbaran ako!
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    Post by Liway on Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:28 pm

    Jewel wrote:

    Saan ka ba nag-aral, basihan mo diyaryo? hehhehe

    atsaka bakit post ni chitoy ang nilagay at hindi yung diyaryo, jerjer ka pala hehehhe

    Ang MUSLIM Nga NAMAN Kitang KITA SA GAWA he he he



    WALANG AWANG SINIBAK YUNG GURO Kaya NAMAN PALA EH< Kasama SA SUBJECT
    YUNG MURDEROUS HATRED!!!! he he he



    MGA GILIW NA Tagabasa PAPAYAG BA KAYO SA BIAS NA KOMENTO NI JEWEL!



    BAKIT KAYA Pilit NIYANG TINATAGO YUN he he he


    siyanga pala kay chiTEO galing ang comment na iyan!

    http://relihiyon.10.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=28150#28150

    he he he happy reading boys!


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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by harballah on Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:18 pm

    BibleBot wrote:infairness ke liway mukhang interesting naman ang paksa na binukasan nya dito

    kaso ang di lang ako pabor sa kanya eh kung paano ang approach nya sa mga kaibigan nating muslim

    Ehem parang kung kailan nasa OLD BARM si Junny ay nandito karin din naman, sa tingin mo kaya biblebot nagkataon lang

    Link: http://www.thebereans.net/forum2/showpost.php?p=819160&postcount=101

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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by Jewel on Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:20 pm

    naku, kahit saan may ganito talagang tao na ubod ng eng eng hehehehhe
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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by Liway on Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:39 pm

    Muslim by nature are really murderous. This occurence is very commom in
    muslim society. They cannot be corrected that is why crime rises
    whenever muslim lives.



    The above article shows how bias are muslim in terms of other religions.
    The apologist muslim tried to hide their shameless acts but to no avail
    since everybody knows what muslims are.

    by Matrix Ren he he he

    http://relihiyon.10.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=1668
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    Post by Liway on Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:41 pm

    tsk tsk ayaw ka raw kadebate ni Ren dahil ikaw ay isang talunan kay Junny hak hak hak. pweee kay Ren na uhugin lang nagpapalampaso pa kao pwee!
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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by adanedhel on Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:38 am

    Graphic Stoning of Young Girl by Muslims

    This is graphic and sick but is further proof that Islam is at heart an evil religion. Notice the cell phones taking pictures of the stoning!

    This is a very graphic and disgusting film, a horror, of the execution by stoning of a young Muslim girl by her own Muslim community. She had refused to marry the old man her father had picked for her husband.

    She was taken to court and sentenced to death by stoning under Shari Law. This is a common occurrence in most Muslim countries.

    Our press very rarely reports it. Why would that be? Where are the feminists, the human rights people, the U.N.? Why doesn’t anyone in the administration including our president, say or do something? Probably because he is so busy expressing his admiration for the “peace loving” Muslims and promoting a Mosque at Ground Zero.


    For more reading click http://www.catholic-convert.com/2010/08/17/graphic-stoning-of-young-girl-by-muslims/
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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by Ateo on Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:01 am

    As a liberal atheist, I am disgusted by what happened in the video.

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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by harballah on Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:15 pm

    adanedhel wrote:Graphic Stoning of Young Girl by Muslims

    This is graphic and sick but is further proof that Islam is at heart an evil religion. Notice the cell phones taking pictures of the stoning!

    This is a very graphic and disgusting film, a horror, of the execution by stoning of a young Muslim girl by her own Muslim community. She had refused to marry the old man her father had picked for her husband.

    She was taken to court and sentenced to death by stoning under Shari Law. This is a common occurrence in most Muslim countries.

    Our press very rarely reports it. Why would that be? Where are the feminists, the human rights people, the U.N.? Why doesn’t anyone in the administration including our president, say or do something? Probably because he is so busy expressing his admiration for the “peace loving” Muslims and promoting a Mosque at Ground Zero.


    For more reading click http://www.catholic-convert.com/2010/08/17/graphic-stoning-of-young-girl-by-muslims/

    Brad puwedeng malaman ang balitang iyan kung saan hind po iyong galing sa catholic sites, any link about diyan.

    Thanks and peace!

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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by adanedhel on Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:27 pm

    Paki-click na lang bro yung site, may link dun na galing sa CNN with video...
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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by harballah on Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:36 pm

    adanedhel wrote:Paki-click na lang bro yung site, may link dun na galing sa CNN with video...

    Thanks, pinanood ko ang bidyo pero hindi naman yata stoning ang ginawa doon kundi pinagsisipa, in fact kapag hinatulan ka ng stoning to death ay dapat ibinabaon ka sa lupa, hindi kaya galit lang ang mga tao doon sa babae.

    Actually, sa tagal ko na dito sa kaharian (Saudi Arabia) ay wala pa akong nakitang hinatulan ng stoning to death.

    May tanong lang ako sa iyo brad, nagkamali ba ang Diyos ninyo sa OT na ipag-utos ang pagpataw ng stoning sa mga nangangalunya?

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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by adanedhel on Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:28 am

    Noong panahon pa ng OT bata pa ang paniniwala ng mga tao, kailangan nila ng mas istriktong batas para sila ay sumunod. Sa paglipas ng panahon unti-unting tumatanda o nagmamature ang paniniwalang iyon, at sa pagdating ng NT ang nagiging batayan na ay ang PAG-IBIG na ipinangangaral ni Jesu-Cristo. Sa Katolikong pananaw laging ang sentro ay si Kristo, ang OT ay reference na lang kung paanong nabuo ang paniniwalang iyon.

    Ngayon sa pamamaraan ng capital punishment na stoning, katanggap-tanggap pa ito sa panahon ng OT dahil sa hindi pa sila masyadong mulat kung bakit ganito ang pamamalakad ng Diyos, ngunit sa panahon ng NT ang pag-ibig at pagpapatawad na ang nagiging batas. Noong may nahuling babaeng nakikiapid paano ito hinatulan ni Jesus? Sabi Niya "let those who have no sin cast the first stone to this woman."

    Kaya sa makabagong panahong ito it is so barbaric and so rude to know na mayroon pa ring ganung punishment kagaya na lang ng stoning at beheading.
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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by harballah on Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:02 am

    adanedhel wrote:Noong panahon pa ng OT bata pa ang paniniwala ng mga tao, kailangan nila ng mas istriktong batas para sila ay sumunod. Sa paglipas ng panahon unti-unting tumatanda o nagmamature ang paniniwalang iyon, at sa pagdating ng NT ang nagiging batayan na ay ang PAG-IBIG na ipinangangaral ni Jesu-Cristo. Sa Katolikong pananaw laging ang sentro ay si Kristo, ang OT ay reference na lang kung paanong nabuo ang paniniwalang iyon.

    Ngayon sa pamamaraan ng capital punishment na stoning, katanggap-tanggap pa ito sa panahon ng OT dahil sa hindi pa sila masyadong mulat kung bakit ganito ang pamamalakad ng Diyos, ngunit sa panahon ng NT ang pag-ibig at pagpapatawad na ang nagiging batas. Noong may nahuling babaeng nakikiapid paano ito hinatulan ni Jesus? Sabi Niya "let those who have no sin cast the first stone to this woman."

    Kaya sa makabagong panahong ito it is so barbaric and so rude to know na mayroon pa ring ganung punishment kagaya na lang ng stoning at beheading.

    So, ang sagot mo ba sa akin ay nagkamali ang Diyos sa panahon noon at ipinataw niya ang kamatayan sa mga nangangalunya ganoon po ba.

    Sino ba ang nag-alis ng parusang ito ang Diyos po ba o binago ng isang tao lamang.

    May usapin na kami about doon sa babae at ayon sa mga kapwa mo kristiyano ay sinasabing wala daw talagang kasalanan iyon babae kasi napagbibintangan lang, so kung tutuo iyon ay bakit naman paparusahan iyong babae kung wala naman palang kasalanan.

    Pero ang tanong ay sa tingin mo ba ay sinuway ni Hesus ang batas na ipinahayag ng Diyos kay Moses tungkol sa death stoning ?

    Basi sa bidyo na ipinakita mo ay halatang hindi ipinataw ng Sharia Law ito kundi ng mga tao lamang, sa tingin ko lang.

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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by adanedhel on Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:27 pm

    Ibig bang sabihin bro nagkamali lang mga tao dun sa pag-iinterpret ng Shaira Law?

    Patungkol naman dun sa kung sinuway ba ni Jesus ang naunang utos ng Dios sa Old Testament, hindi inalis ang content ng batas na yun kundi mas binigyan pa ng meaning. Kung nangangalunya ka under sa New Covenant may kaukulang parusa pa rin ito, ngunit hindi na kagaya nung sa Old Testament na ipinapapatay sa pamamagitan ng stoning.

    Pangalawa ang Old Covenant o Mosaic Laws ay ibinigay sa mga Israelites lamang at hindi talaga sa buong sangkatauhan.
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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by harballah on Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:11 pm

    adanedhel wrote:Ibig bang sabihin bro nagkamali lang mga tao dun sa pag-iinterpret ng Shaira Law?

    Una sa lahat ay hindi po tayo saksi kung humantong nga ba iyong sa Sharia Law o kung ano nga ba ang tunay na kasalanan ng babaeng nasa bidyo, alalahanin mong ang adultery ay mayroon dalawang uri, iyong adultery na may asawa ang babae at lalaki at mayroon naman adultery na parehong walang asawa ang lalaki at babae.

    Ang parusa ay magkaiba po.

    Sahih Muslim : Book #017, Hadith #4192

    'Ubada b. as-Samit reported that whenever Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) received revelation, he felt its rigour and the complexion of his face changed. One day revelation descended upon him, he felt the same rigour. When it was over and he felt relief, he said: Take from me. Verily Allah has ordained a way for them (the women who commit fornication),: (When) a married man (commits adultery) with a married woman, and an unmarried male with an unmarried woman, then in case of married (persons) there is (a punishment) of one hundred lashes and then stoning (to death). And in case of unmarried persons, (the punishment) is one hundred lashes and exile for one year.


    Ito ang nasa hadith na iyan:

    For married persons:
    1) then in case of married (persons) there is (a punishment) of one hundred lashes and then stoning (to death).

    Unmarried Persons:
    2) And in case of unmarried persons, (the punishment) is one hundred lashes and exile for one year.


    Kaya papaano mo malalaman iyong nasa bidyo kung wala po tayo at hindi po tayo nakasaksi sa kasalanan ng babae.


    adanedhel wrote:
    Patungkol naman dun sa kung sinuway ba ni Jesus ang naunang utos ng Dios sa Old Testament, hindi inalis ang content ng batas na yun kundi mas binigyan pa ng meaning. Kung nangangalunya ka under sa New Covenant may kaukulang parusa pa rin ito, ngunit hindi na kagaya nung sa Old Testament na ipinapapatay sa pamamagitan ng stoning.

    Pangalawa ang Old Covenant o Mosaic Laws ay ibinigay sa mga Israelites lamang at hindi talaga sa buong sangkatauhan.

    Papaano ka nakakasiguro na ang parusa sa nangangalunya ay naiiba gayong ang linaw ng sinabi ni Hesus sa Mateo 5.

    Matthew 5:17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.


    Kung sinasabi mong binigyan ng meaning ay para mo rin sinasabi na sinuway ni Hesus ang kautusan na malinaw naman niyang sinasabing na hindi niya inalis bagkus ay ginanap niya.

    So, dahil hindi po kayo Israelites ay hindi kayo sakop ng batas ni Moses, kung gayon ay hindi ba kayo nagpapasakop sa sampung kautusan, yes or no ?

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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by adanedhel on Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:56 am

    Concerning adultery here are what the New Testament has to say:

    Matt. 5:27-30
    "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

    Rom. 13:9
    The commandments, "Do not commit adultery," "Do not murder," "Do not steal," "Do not covet,"[a] and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: "Love your neighbor as yourself."

    Mapapansin natin na mas malawak pa ang sakop ng new law kesa sa old law, kumbaga ni-ratify ni Jesus yung content ng old law. Hindi Niya inabolish kundi lalo pang binigyan ng lalim ang kahulugan.

    Tungkol naman dun sa tanong mo na hindi ba sakop ang mga non-Israelites sa 10 commandments, the thing is ang mga Israelis (modern Israelites) ang ayaw magpasakop sa New Law of the New Covenant. Ang Katolisismo is Jewish by affinity dahil isang Jew si Jesus, pero nung pinalawak na Niya ang sakop ng batas hindi na sila sumunod dito, nananatili pa rin sila sa pagsunod ng Old Laws.

    Ngayon pag na-violate mo ang New Law more specifically about adultery, ano ba ang parusa? Mas malala pa sa stoning at lashes pero the point is hindi tayo ang mag-eexecute ng parusa kundi ang Diyos, dahil mga makasalanan din tayo.
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    Re: Murderous HATRED!!!

    Post by harballah on Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:08 pm

    adanedhel wrote:Concerning adultery here are what the New Testament has to say:

    Matt. 5:27-30
    "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

    Rom. 13:9
    The commandments, "Do not commit adultery," "Do not murder," "Do not steal," "Do not covet,"[a] and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: "Love your neighbor as yourself."

    Mapapansin natin na mas malawak pa ang sakop ng new law kesa sa old law, kumbaga ni-ratify ni Jesus yung content ng old law. Hindi Niya inabolish kundi lalo pang binigyan ng lalim ang kahulugan.

    So, ibig mong sabihin ay binago ni Hesus ang law at ni-ratify kamo, pero basi sa nasa mateo ay wala naman siyang sinabing ni-ratify o binago niya ang nasa kautusan kay Moses ang sabi niya diyan ay ganito lang........"But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart".

    Kaya mas tamang tanggapin na bukod sa batas ni Moses na stoning to death sa nangangalunya ay mas binigyan diin pa ni Hesus na nangangalunya rin ang pagnanasa sa isang babae, what about ngayon na nagkalat ang pornograpiya sa tingin mo kaya ay hindi maraming kalalakihan ang nagkakasala ng pangangalunya, so dapat ba ninyong sundin ang kautusan ni Hesus "If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. "


    adanedhel wrote:Tungkol naman dun sa tanong mo na hindi ba sakop ang mga non-Israelites sa 10 commandments, the thing is ang mga Israelis (modern Israelites) ang ayaw magpasakop sa New Law of the New Covenant. Ang Katolisismo is Jewish by affinity dahil isang Jew si Jesus, pero nung pinalawak na Niya ang sakop ng batas hindi na sila sumunod dito, nananatili pa rin sila sa pagsunod ng Old Laws.

    Teka kaibigan si Hesus ay hudyo at hindi niya kailanman nasabing ang mga hudyo ay dapat sumunod sa NEW TESTAMENT kasi wala na si Hesus sa panahon na ginawa ang NT ninyo, papaano mong nasabing ang mga hudyo ang dapat magpasakop sa sinasabi mong Law of the New Covenant, huwag mo rin kalimutan na mga descendant ni Isaac ang mga Hudyo.

    Parang hindi yata kapani-paniwala na ang mga Hudyo ang dapat sumunod sa New Testament gayong mismong si Hesus ay sinabi niyang:-

    Matthew 5:17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

    Makikita natin na pinagdiiinan niya diyan na wala siyang binago sa batas ni Moses, papaano mo ngayon nasabing iyong mga Hudyo ay dapat magpasakop sa NT Rolling Eyes


    adanedhel wrote:
    Ngayon pag na-violate mo ang New Law more specifically about adultery, ano ba ang parusa? Mas malala pa sa stoning at lashes pero the point is hindi tayo ang mag-eexecute ng parusa kundi ang Diyos, dahil mga makasalanan din tayo.

    Saan po sinabing ang parusa sa nangangalunya ay Diyos lang ang magparusa sa kabilang buhay.

    Brad, nabasa mo na ba iyong post ko about sa parusa sa adultery kung saan ay mayroon dalawang batayan kung sino ang dapat parusahan ng kamatayan.








































































































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