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Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

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Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by Hector on Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:30 am

1. No other gods...worship (Romans 1:25)
2. No images (Acts 17:29)
3. Name in vain (1 Timothy 6:1)
4. Sabbath (N/A)
5. Father and mother (Ephesians 6:2)
6. Murder (Romans 13:9)
7. Adultery (Romans 13:9)
8. Steal (Romans 13:9)
9. Lies (Romans 13:9)
10. Covet (Romans 13:9)

Since the Sabbath command is not repeated in the New Covenant it is not binding upon the Christian.

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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by Ateo on Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:36 am

This is interesting. But let me use this insight on a new line of argument, kung pwede. If 9 out of 10 commandments are revalidated in the NT anyway, why is there an assertion that the laws of OT are rendered inoperative in the NT?

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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by Hector on Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:26 pm

Here is an example which is useful in understanding the situation. Before the United Sates became a nation the American colonists had to obey the laws of England. But when the United States formed their own nation the American citizens were no longer required to obey any and all the laws of England but if the United States government chose to have some of the same laws as England then a United Staes citizen had to obey it/them.

Any laws that were repeated had to be obeyed while any laws not repeated did not have to be obeyed. This applies to the Old and New Covenants as well.

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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by freespirit on Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:59 pm

Do you believed that Christ, as the rightful authority and judge, advocate and teach lawful observance of the Sabbath? Pls. answer...
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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by element_115x on Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:09 pm

From what i know, Jesus IS the sabbath himself in this Christian dispensation. I recall that it's not about certain days anymore as matters for sabbaths are concerned... Christians can find 'rest' through Jesus.
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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by Hector on Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:53 pm

When Christ was on earth He observed the Sabbath but when the New Covenant was implemented Sabbath observance was no longer required.
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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by freespirit on Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:47 pm

Hector wrote:When Christ was on earth He observed the Sabbath but when the New Covenant was implemented Sabbath observance was no longer required.
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You didn't answer the question...
I'm not asking if Christ observed the Sabbath or not. I'm asking if Christ teach lawful observance of this? Just answer...
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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by Hector on Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:14 pm

By observing it He taught it.

He used to teach/observe the Sabbath when it was in force. Remember....."used to" for it no longer applies once the New Covenant began.

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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by freespirit on Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:12 am

so, Christ never exert any verbal effort to define the lawful observance of sabbath?
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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by Hector on Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:45 am

Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not (Matthew 23:1-3).

The Pharisees would have taught Sabbath observance to the people and Christ wanted the people to do what the Pharisees taught in regards to things like Sabbath observance.

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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by freespirit on Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:10 pm

I am not asking what the Pharisees taught about Sabbath, I'm asking of Christ. Is there any?
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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by Hector on Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:40 pm

I answered it already. They taught observance of the Sabbath and He said the people are to listen to them.

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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by freespirit on Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:22 pm

So, there's no DIRECT teaching from Him, except pointing the Pharisees?
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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by Hector on Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:51 pm

Except pointing to the Pharisees is the direct teaching.

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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by freespirit on Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:53 pm

What about the Pharisees?
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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by Hector on Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:45 am

They taught to obey the Sabbath.

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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by freespirit on Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:54 am

Hector wrote:

Except pointing to the Pharisees is the direct teaching.

They taught to obey the Sabbath.

The Pharisees forbid corn ears plucking during Sabbath. Is this the DIRECT teaching of Christ regarding lawful observance of the Sabbath?
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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by Hector on Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:04 am

No.
The direct teaching of Christ concerning the Pharisees obeying the Sabbath is found in Matthew 23:1-3. Your previous post was one of seveal excpetions when He disagreed with their teachings.
During His time on the earth Christ never disagreed with them that the Sabbath should be observed but He did disagree with how they went about its observance in some areas.

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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by freespirit on Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:11 am

Hector wrote:No.
The direct teaching of Christ concerning the Pharisees obeying the Sabbath is found in Matthew 23:1-3.. Your previous post was one of seveal excpetions when He disagreed with their teachings.
During His time on the earth Christ never disagreed with their Sabbath observance but how they went about its observance in some areas.

You stated that pointing to the teachings of the Pharisees means DIRECT teaching of Christ regarding the lawful observance of the Sabbath, (which was actually my question).

But now by saying "NO"... you're making your mouth so much unreliable. It seemed that the crowd shouts because of your shame. The discussion is over.
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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by Hector on Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:13 am

No, for the example you gave.

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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by freespirit on Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:14 am

The discussion is over...you have proven to be unreliable.

freespirit wrote:I am not asking what the Pharisees taught about
Sabbath, I'm asking of Christ. Is there any?

Hector wrote:Except pointing to the Pharisees is the direct
teaching.


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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by Hector on Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:17 am

You have proven that you can't stick with the topic of THIS THREAD.

There is no New Covenant command for Sabbath observance.

Sum total of zero passages by you to refute what I asserted.

Keep up the awful work.

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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by freespirit on Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:18 am

The discussion is over...you have proven to be unreliable.

freespirit wrote:I
am not asking what the Pharisees taught about
Sabbath, I'm asking
of Christ. Is there any?

Hector wrote:Except pointing
to the Pharisees is the direct
teaching.

Advice: Be shameful when you are opening the pages of the Bible.


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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by Hector on Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:19 am

You have proven you want to hijack this thread because yor heresy has been exposed.

From the OP:

Since the Sabbath command is not repeated in the New Covenant it is not binding upon the Christian.

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Re: Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant (Sabbath command is not)

Post by freespirit on Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:21 am

The discussion is over...you have proven to be unreliable.



freespirit wrote:I


am not asking what the Pharisees taught about

Sabbath, I'm asking

of
Christ. Is there any?


Hector wrote:Except pointing

to
the Pharisees is the direct

teaching.

freespirit wrote:The Pharisees forbid corn
ears plucking during Sabbath. Is this the DIRECT teaching of Christ
regarding lawful observance of the Sabbath?

Hector wrote:No.


Point: Ang isda nahuhuli sa bunganga...
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