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Re: Isang Tanong Isang Sagot (ITIS)...

Post by vril on Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:14 pm

element_115x wrote:

Hmm... but maybe all these religion biz (and i'm talking about the elaborately organized ones) are just fronts for something else entirely? Like, perhaps to have easy access to the 'conquered' land's resources and stuff?

Just thinking out loud here. Smile

Namaste!

Thank you for thinking out loud my friend.

I think Man started religion and used it to be maintain cohesiveness of the group. If resources are scarce, there is really a tendency to subjugated other territories. And man used religion as a powerful tool to control its people and try and carry on with its goal of acquiring resources. The zionist for one, used religion to claim rights on the palestine land. That part of the world has never been the same!

And so as i pointed out, religion must focus on something else. Not center on a supreme deity who needs to be worshipped. god worship is primitive. Who wants to go back in time anyways?


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Re: Isang Tanong Isang Sagot (ITIS)...

Post by Ateo on Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:25 pm

Believe it or not, the Aesop Fables were actually part of the sacred literature associated with pagan Greek religion. Now, the fables are just bed-side reading. In the future, the Bible and the Quran will just become a bedside story.

Nobody now believes that Athena is a goddess. But in those days, she is serious business.

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Re: Isang Tanong Isang Sagot (ITIS)...

Post by element_115x on Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:51 pm

vril wrote:
Thank you for thinking out loud my friend.

I think Man started religion and used it to be maintain cohesiveness of the group. If resources are scarce, there is really a tendency to subjugated other territories. And man used religion as a powerful tool to control its people and try and carry on with its goal of acquiring resources. The zionist for one, used religion to claim rights on the palestine land. That part of the world has never been the same!

And so as i pointed out, religion must focus on something else. Not center on a supreme deity who needs to be worshipped. god worship is primitive. Who wants to go back in time anyways?


It's really ironic that the Holy Land is also probably the world's most stressful place to live in. Smile Talk about misnomers.

But again, kudos to the other less intrusive belief systems like Buddhism and Jainism... these religions seem to be on the 'right-track' imho, as compared to the three most popular ones in terms of controversies and continuous reporting by CNN and BBC.


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Re: Isang Tanong Isang Sagot (ITIS)...

Post by element_115x on Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:59 pm

Ateo wrote:Believe it or not, the Aesop Fables were actually part of the sacred literature associated with pagan Greek religion. Now, the fables are just bed-side reading. In the future, the Bible and the Quran will just become a bedside story.

Nobody now believes that Athena is a goddess. But in those days, she is serious business.

No wonder i kept dozing off whenever the priests starts reading the Bible in Masses way back when i attended it. Smile
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Post by harballah on Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:34 pm

element_115x wrote:Thanks bro Harballah for clearing that up. So what they have memorized from earlier times is exactly the same word for word that was written... no changes or modifications made. Namaste!

Same words written in the earlier manuscripts which revealed to our prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

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Post by harballah on Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:36 pm

Announcement:

Nandito po tayo sa Islam board at bilang kapatid ninyo sa Islam ay minarapat namin gawin ang espasyong ito sa mga katanungan ninyo tungkol sa Islam, inuulit ko tungkol po sa Islam o patungkol sa doktorina at aral sa Islam.

Maraming salamat po!

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Post by Ateo on Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:27 pm

Ateo wrote:In history, the Wahhabis destroyed some significant sites of Islam such as the graves of some Companions. They even targetted the tomb of the prophet and succeeded to destroy the tomb markings.

Is Wahhabism, the dominant form of Islam in Saudi Arabia, a good force in Islam?


Sorry, Harby, na-distracted kami. Pero, meron akong isang question kanina. Ito po yun. Thanks!

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Post by harballah on Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:42 pm

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Sorry, Harby, na-distracted kami. Pero, meron akong isang question kanina. Ito po yun. Thanks!

Medyo mahabang talakayan itong inilatag mo sa akin Ateo, pero sa ngayon kasi ay ibang wahhabist ang nandito ngayon sa Saudi Arabia.

Puwede iyong doktorina at aral lang muna kasi baka diyan ay masasagot kita ng deretsahan.

Thanks and peace!

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Post by vril on Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:45 am

harballah wrote:Announcement:

Nandito po tayo sa Islam board at bilang kapatid ninyo sa Islam ay minarapat namin gawin ang espasyong ito sa mga katanungan ninyo tungkol sa Islam, inuulit ko tungkol po sa Islam o patungkol sa doktorina at aral sa Islam.

Maraming salamat po!

Harballah

agree..apologize for sidetracking.

Looking forward to jewels answers to my last post about the destruction of other versions of Qu'ran.

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Re: Isang Tanong Isang Sagot (ITIS)...

Post by Ateo on Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:58 am

Also, I am looking forward to Harballah answering my question on Wahhabism. Perhaps, para hindi "hahaba ang talakayan", I will simplify the question:

Is Wahhabism good for Islam?

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Post by vril on Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:46 am

Ateo wrote:Also, I am looking forward to Harballah answering my question on Wahhabism. Perhaps, para hindi "hahaba ang talakayan", I will simplify the question:

Is Wahhabism good for Islam?

Are these different from Sunni and Shi'ite?

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Post by Ateo on Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:03 am

Good question, Vril. Perhaps, Harballah would answer that too. Actually Wahhabism is not Shi'ite, so the question is really if Wahhabism is truly Sunni.

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Post by harballah on Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:55 pm

Ateo wrote:Also, I am looking forward to Harballah answering my question on Wahhabism. Perhaps, para hindi "hahaba ang talakayan", I will simplify the question:

Is Wahhabism good for Islam?

Alam mo Ateo hindi ko alam kung ang Wahhabi noon ay siyang Wahhabi sa ngayon, medyo hindi ko na binibigyan ng panahon na bigyan pansin kung sinuman ang tagasunod ng mga ito, kaya pasensiya na lang po kung hindi kita mabigyan ng eksaktong sagot kasi hindi po iyan ang aral at doktorina namin sa Islam.

Maraming salamat sa pang-unawa.

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Are these different from Sunni and Shi'ite?

Ang tutuo Vril ay kabilang ang Wahhabi sa mga Sunni Muslim pero hindi ko alam sa ngayon kung sila parin ba iyan, medyo mahabang talakayan iyan at walang kinalaman sa doktorina at aral sa Islam.

Kung may katanungan kayo sa doktorina at aral namin sa Islam ay maluwag po kayong masasagot ng inyong lingkod.

Maraming salamat!

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Post by element_115x on Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:17 pm

Regarding sa veils ng Muslim sisters, anu anu po ba ang instances na kailangan para gumamit ng either hijab, niqab, or burqa?

Bakit po iba-iba ang kasuotang ito?

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Re: Isang Tanong Isang Sagot (ITIS)...

Post by harballah on Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:46 pm

element_115x wrote:Regarding sa veils ng Muslim sisters, anu anu po ba ang instances na kailangan para gumamit ng either hijab, niqab, or burqa?

Bakit po iba-iba ang kasuotang ito?

Namaste!



Actually brother ay ganito ang sabi ng Allah sa banal na Quran.

And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss. ( سورة النور , An-Noor, Chapter #24, Verse #31)


Siguro ang paggamit ng iba ng Niqab or Burqa ay tradisyon, pero wala akong nakikitang problema kung iyon ang gusto nilang gamitin ang importante ay ang nakasaad sa Quran.

Siguro nakikita mo naman sa buong mundo kung alin ang isinusuot ng maraming Muslim sa iba't ibang bansa.

Thanks and peace!'

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Post by harballah on Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:47 pm

element_115x wrote:Regarding sa veils ng Muslim sisters, anu anu po ba ang instances na kailangan para gumamit ng either hijab, niqab, or burqa?

Bakit po iba-iba ang kasuotang ito?

Namaste!



Actually brother ay ganito ang sabi ng Allah sa banal na Quran.

And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss. ( سورة النور , An-Noor, Chapter #24, Verse #31)


Siguro ang paggamit ng iba ng Niqab or Burqa ay tradisyon, pero wala akong nakikitang problema kung iyon ang gusto nilang gamitin ang importante ay ang nakasaad sa Quran.

Siguro nakikita mo naman sa buong mundo kung alin ang isinusuot ng maraming Muslim sa iba't ibang bansa.

Thanks and peace!'

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Post by harballah on Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:50 pm

Element hindi lang babae ang itinutusan ng Allah subhana wa taalah kundi maski po ang mga kalalakihan.


Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: And Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.
( سورة النور , An-Noor, Chapter #24, Verse #30)

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Post by truthseeker on Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:33 pm

Bakit ang karamihan sa mga nakikita ko at karamihan sa mga kakilala ko na nagiging muslim eh nagpapatubo ng balbas? may kinalaman ba ito sa islam or tradition lang or distinction?
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Post by harballah on Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:10 am

truthseeker wrote:Bakit ang karamihan sa mga nakikita ko at karamihan sa mga kakilala ko na nagiging muslim eh nagpapatubo ng balbas? may kinalaman ba ito sa islam or tradition lang or distinction?

Ito po ay parte ng Sunnah ng propheta Muhammad (peace be upon him).

Iyan ay may daleel sa hadith (Sunan Abudawood) basi sa pagkasabi ng propheta Muhammad (pbuh).

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: Ten are the acts according to fitrah (nature): clipping the moustache, letting the beard grow, using the tooth-stick, cutting the nails, washing the finger joints, plucking the hair under the arm-pits, shaving the pubes, and cleansing one's private parts (after easing or urinating) with water. The narrator said: I have forgotten the tenth, but it may have been rinsing the mouth. (Book #1, Hadith #0052)

Maraming salamat po sa inyong katanungan.

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Post by Jewel on Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:23 am

Peace!

Sori sa di pagsagot sa mga nagtanong sakin, nagbakasyon po ako ng 2 days sa Riyadh, di po ako nagdala ng laptop kasi di sigurado kung may net connection sa tutuluyan namin.

Si vril yata at element may tanong sakin, o baka si ateo

pakiulit lang po ang tanong kasi di ko na nasundan ang conference nyo dito.

Peace!



Salam kay imam harballah. Okay pala magshopping sa haraj ng Riyadh, clark shoes 20-25 riyals lang eh 8,000 - 10,000 sa pinas!

May ganyan din ba sa Jeddah imam?


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Post by harballah on Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:42 am

Jewel wrote:Peace!

Sori sa di pagsagot sa mga nagtanong sakin, nagbakasyon po ako ng 2 days sa Riyadh, di po ako nagdala ng laptop kasi di sigurado kung may net connection sa tutuluyan namin.

Si vril yata at element may tanong sakin, o baka si ateo

pakiulit lang po ang tanong kasi di ko na nasundan ang conference nyo dito.

Peace!

Basahin mo na lang bro ang mga post nila kasi hindi naman kalayuan ang mga tanong nila sa iyo, para sa ganoon ay masundan mo ang naging daloy ng usapin, ganyan kasi ang ginagawa ko kapag ilang araw akong wala bago ako magpost.


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Salam kay imam harballah. Okay pala magshopping sa haraj ng Riyadh, clark shoes 20-25 riyals lang eh 8,000 - 10,000 sa pinas!

May ganyan din ba sa Jeddah imam?


Salam

Alaikom Wassalam, naku bro kung ang presyo ay 20-25 riyals ay hindi iyan original kasi walang clarks na nagkakahalaga ng ganyan, tulad sa amin dati ay may tinda kaming clarks at abot more than hundred ang presyo.

May sapatos kami dito kaya lang mahirap ma-afford kasi umaabot ng more than 4 thousand ang presyo kasi signature items at ang pinakamura na siguro dito ay mga 150 before discount pa.

By the way, baka mabaling paksa tayo Shiek Jewel at puwede natin ituloy sa PRIVATE MESSAGE he!he!he!

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Post by Jewel on Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:25 am

harballah wrote:

Alaikom Wassalam, naku bro kung ang presyo ay 20-25 riyals ay hindi iyan original kasi walang clarks na nagkakahalaga ng ganyan, tulad sa amin dati ay may tinda kaming clarks at abot more than hundred ang presyo.

May sapatos kami dito kaya lang mahirap ma-afford kasi umaabot ng more than 4 thousand ang presyo kasi signature items at ang pinakamura na siguro dito ay mga 150 before discount pa.

By the way, baka mabaling paksa tayo Shiek Jewel at puwede natin ituloy sa PRIVATE MESSAGE he!he!he!

Singit lang naman sandali.


yung haraj hindi po yun mall yun bang parang baclaran satin. orig talaga bro as in, dami nga pinoy dun babae't lalaki ksi mura lng talaga may okay okay din 5 riyals each.

sige balik nlng ako bukas ks pagod ako kararating ko lang. sumagot na pala si pooch at nakita ko na dahilan ng blunder nya sa desisyon na ginawa nya. papaliwanag ko nalang bukas inshallah


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Post by harballah on Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:29 am

Jewel wrote:
Singit lang naman sandali.


yung haraj hindi po yun mall yun bang parang baclaran satin. orig talaga bro as in, dami nga pinoy dun babae't lalaki ksi mura lng talaga may okay okay din 5 riyals each.

sige balik nlng ako bukas ks pagod ako kararating ko lang. sumagot na pala si pooch at nakita ko na dahilan ng blunder nya sa desisyon na ginawa nya. papaliwanag ko nalang bukas inshallah


salam

Okey, so kaya pala mura bro kasi parang hukay-hukay na iyan, kumbaga ay nagamit na o hindi naman kaya ay full out na sa tindahan.

Sige bro, tulog kana at bukas ka na lang sumagot sa post ako naman kasi ay malapit ng mag-offtime dito sa office.


Wait lang tayo sa ibang katanungan sa Islam.

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Post by vril on Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:09 am

Jewel wrote:Peace!

Sori sa di pagsagot sa mga nagtanong sakin, nagbakasyon po ako ng 2 days sa Riyadh, di po ako nagdala ng laptop kasi di sigurado kung may net connection sa tutuluyan namin.

Si vril yata at element may tanong sakin, o baka si ateo

pakiulit lang po ang tanong kasi di ko na nasundan ang conference nyo dito.

Peace!



Salam kay imam harballah. Okay pala magshopping sa haraj ng Riyadh, clark shoes 20-25 riyals lang eh 8,000 - 10,000 sa pinas!

May ganyan din ba sa Jeddah imam?


Salam

san pasalubong mo bro...^_^

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Post by Ateo on Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:59 am

Welcome back, Jewel. I hope the Clarks shoes fit well and look great.

You have to catch up, there are a couple of questions that you may want to answer.

Here is another one for either you or Harballah. This refers to section 3, para 1 of this linked site on sexual practices in Islamic Egypt. http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/IES/egypt.html


"There is an Islamic law that says that if on the wedding night, the woman discovers that her husband’s penis is smaller than the thickness of three fingers, she may divorce him on the grounds of impotence."


While you guys are recovering from the shock, I hope you don't mind my asking if this Islamic law is real. I got it from an academic site.


p.s., Jewel, I will assume, of course, that your, er, er, family jewel meets the Islamic size requirement. Smile


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