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Post by RavlaM on Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:21 pm

harballah wrote:Wow sigurado ka bang ang arabik mo na iyan ay grammatically o barok-barok Laughing


Akala mo ba iyong salita dito sa saudi arabia ay iyon din ang salita sa Quran, o papaano pasasama ka na sa akin na mag-aral ka ng arabic lesson....

Hahaha malamanghindi naintindihan... Razz
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Post by harballah on Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:01 pm

Ilang taon kana sa Saudi Arabia, ako gusto mong malaman kung ilang taon ako dito sa saudi arabia at kung ako ba ay nag-aral ng arabic sa Madrasah, iyon bang lenguwahe ng ibang Muslim countries pareho ba sa Quran, sige nga subukan natin kung ano ang alam mo.


Umpisahan mo ng mag-websites surfing hehehe!



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Post by RavlaM on Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:06 pm

harballah wrote:Ilang taon kana sa Saudi Arabia, ako gusto mong malaman kung ilang taon ako dito sa saudi arabia at kung ako ba ay nag-aral ng arabic sa Madrasah, iyon bang lenguwahe ng ibang Muslim countries pareho ba sa Quran, sige nga subukan natin kung ano ang alam mo.


Umpisahan mo ng mag-websites surfing hehehe!



Nalalayo na po tayo sa issue, kunsabagay wala naman kayong mapatunayan..

Pero ang masasabi ko sa iyo ang "iqra" ay read...hanap ka uli ng patunay na recite din ito.
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Post by harballah on Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:41 pm

Naku sinusundan lang kita, kasi pa-arabik-arabik kapa barok naman Laughing

Tinatanong pa kita kung ilang taon kaba sa saudi arabia at hindi mo rin itatanong sa akin kung ilan taon ako dito at kung nag-aaral ba ako sa madrasah school (arabic school).

Iyon bang lenguwahe na arabic sa ibang bansa ay katulad ba ng nasa Quran, pakisagot lang at papayagan kita gumamit ng websites lol!

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harballah wrote:Naku sinusundan lang kita, kasi pa-arabik-arabik kapa barok naman Laughing

Tinatanong pa kita kung ilang taon kaba sa saudi arabia at hindi mo rin itatanong sa akin kung ilan taon ako dito at kung nag-aaral ba ako sa madrasah school (arabic school).

Iyon bang lenguwahe na arabic sa ibang bansa ay katulad ba ng nasa Quran, pakisagot lang at papayagan kita gumamit ng websites lol!

Siguro di mo alam na ang arabic ng ibat-ibang bansa ay magkakaiba, madki na dito sa saudi ay bawat rehyon ay may pagkakaiba angpananalita... at kung sa quran naman st salita ngayon ay magkaiba rin.

Nasisiguro ko na hindi barok ang arabic ko dahil ikaw di naman makapagsalita.

Kagaya ng sinasabi ko mas pinalakas pa ng post ni sputum ang kontention ko na ang "iqra" na unang binigkas ni angel jibreel (daw) ay nangangahulugang "read" tongue
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Post by harballah on Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:40 pm

Magpakita ka sa akin at tuturuan kita ng tamang grammar ng pagsasalita ng arabik, baka hindi mo alam na iyong arabik mo ay barok.

Pakisagot lang iyong nasa REDMARK.

harballah wrote:Naku sinusundan lang kita, kasi pa-arabik-arabik kapa barok naman Laughing

Tinatanong pa kita kung ilang taon kaba sa saudi arabia at hindi mo rin itatanong sa akin kung ilan taon ako dito at kung nag-aaral ba ako sa madrasah school (arabic school).

Iyon bang lenguwahe na arabic sa ibang bansa ay katulad ba ng nasa Quran,
pakisagot lang at papayagan kita gumamit ng websites lol!

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Post by RavlaM on Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:24 pm

harballah wrote:Magpakita ka sa akin at tuturuan kita ng tamang grammar ng pagsasalita ng arabik, baka hindi mo alam na iyong arabik mo ay barok.

Ya salam ya tawil el omur mumkin enta el ragul min el jabal el tikruni. Agullak ya Harballah keif enta makalem arabi ana mutakid enta zai wallad sagir. laushamat enta oskot, ana kali enta nom.

Shuf ya walad harballah, el kilma iqra heyah read fil inglizi.
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Post by harballah on Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:39 pm

RavlaM wrote:

Ya salam ya tawil el omur mumkin enta el ragul min el jabal el tikruni. Agullak ya Harballah keif enta makalem arabi ana mutakid enta zai wallad sagir. laushamat enta oskot, ana kali enta nom.

Shuf ya walad harballah, el kilma iqra heyah read fil inglizi.

Pakitama lang ang arabik barok mo na iyan, hindi ba nasa saudi arabia ka pakita ka sa akin at mag-usap tayo ng arabic language hindi arabik na barok-barok....siguro kapag nabasa ni jewel iyan at baka sasabihan ka ng mangmang Laughing

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Pakitama lang ang arabik barok mo na iyan, hindi ba nasa saudi arabia ka pakita ka sa akin at mag-usap tayo ng arabic language hindi arabik na barok-barok....siguro kapag nabasa ni jewel iyan at baka sasabihan ka ng mangmang Laughing

Ya salam Harballah enta musharif el loqa arabia. Wala kilma enta ma kalem ana mutakid delhain enta zai agnabi wala kilma ma kalem. Hahaha ana arif delhain enta ma fahem eya kilma minni.

Shuf ya harballah, enta auz shufni leihs enta min fein? Min riyadh o min jeddah? Maalish ana mu magnun zaiak ana mutakid enta mush maalum.
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Post by harballah on Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:02 pm

Paki-korek lang po iyong grammar ninyo, makipagkita ka sa akin at tuturuan kita ng salita dito sa saudi arabia, iyan ibang na-adapt mo ay salitang masri/egyptian Laughing

Ayaw kong gayahin ka dito kasi gusto ko na marinig mo mismo ang tamang grammar ng pagsasalita ng arabic language ng saudi arabia at arabic language ng Quran.

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Post by RavlaM on Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:10 pm

harballah wrote:Paki-korek lang po iyong grammar ninyo, makipagkita ka sa akin at tuturuan kita ng salita dito sa saudi arabia, iyan ibang na-adapt mo ay salitang masri/egyptian Laughing

Ayaw kong gayahin ka dito kasi gusto ko na marinig mo mismo ang tamang grammar ng pagsasalita ng arabic language ng saudi arabia at arabic language ng Quran.

Hahaha nagdududa na ako sa iyo at di po ninyo naintindihan ang sinabi ko.

Nagkakamali ka, hindi po egyptian arabic ang salita ko,

Sige nga dare lang po kita...hanggang porma lang ata kayo...sinampulan ko na naga kayo ni di manlang kayo nakasagot. Razz
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Post by RavlaM on Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:44 pm

Yallaah Harballah, kalem arabi. ana asif andi sual minnak, leish enta min del hain ma kalim wala kilma min arabi? Ana affakir enta kaddab yanni enta maarif kalem arabi.
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Post by harballah on Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:45 am

RavlaM wrote:Yallaah Harballah, kalem arabi. ana asif andi sual minnak, leish enta min del hain ma kalim wala kilma min arabi? Ana affakir enta kaddab yanni enta maarif kalem arabi.

Hindi porke hindi ako nagsasalita ng arabik ay hindi kitang kayang kausapin sa barok mong arabik, mas sinungaling iyong nagmamagaling ng arabik na hindi naman grammar Laughing

Ayan nauunawaan ko ang barok-barok mong arabik, walang pagkakaiba sa mga kilala kung barok kung magsalita ng salita dito sa saudi arabia.......

O iyong arabic language ng Quran alam mo?

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Post by RavlaM on Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:51 am

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Hindi porke hindi ako nagsasalita ng arabik ay hindi kitang kayang kausapin sa barok mong arabik, mas sinungaling iyong nagmamagaling ng arabik na hindi naman grammar Laughing

Ayan nauunawaan ko ang barok-barok mong arabik, walang pagkakaiba sa mga kilala kung barok kung magsalita ng salita dito sa saudi arabia.......

O iyong arabic language ng Quran alam mo?

Hehehe natatawa ako sa iyo harballah, di po pala kayo marunong mag arabic...eto iba naman ang style..

Esh loanak ya harballah kaif el hawa henak fil mahalak. Laushamat keif enta ma kalem wala kilma arabi? Mumkin enta ashara seneen stekul hena, hada min jaman lazem enta edraz loka arabia. Keif hada ana tidhak minnak enta shuf kilma kaddab alatool enta arif hada kilma bas.

Enta auz shufni ya harballah? hahaha leish ana gannun zaiak enta yarif ana masihi o enta zahlan minni. Maalish ya sadik mumkin henak fil balladi enta shufni.

Ayan malinaw na di ka makaimik Harballah...gaano na po ba kayo katagal dito, tip ko lang pag may bago kayong natutunan na salita ay gamitin no kaagad ito. Razz
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Post by harballah on Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:34 pm

Kita tayo para malaman mo ang tamang pagsasalita na hind barok-barok, tuturuan din kita ng salita sa Quran....

Tell me lang kasi kung may makakabasa sa arabik mo diyan ay baka pagtatawanan kapa Laughing

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Post by RavlaM on Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:14 pm

harballah wrote:Kita tayo para malaman mo ang tamang pagsasalita na hind barok-barok, tuturuan din kita ng salita sa Quran....

Tell me lang kasi kung may makakabasa sa arabik mo diyan ay baka pagtatawanan kapa Laughing

Hahaha naku naman po harballah, di nga kayo marunong mg arabic eh.

Malinaw po na wala kayong naintindihan sa mga katagang arabic na pinoste ko.
Magaral kasi kayo ng arabic para may patunay na ang "iqra" ay read.....hanggang ngayon eh "iqra pa rin ang gamit sa arabic na ang ibig sabihin ay "read"
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Post by harballah on Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:03 am

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Hahaha naku naman po harballah, di nga kayo marunong mg arabic eh.

Malinaw po na wala kayong naintindihan sa mga katagang arabic na pinoste ko.
Magaral kasi kayo ng arabic para may patunay na ang "iqra" ay read.....hanggang ngayon eh "iqra pa rin ang gamit sa arabic na ang ibig sabihin ay "read"


Sasabihin ko bang barok kung tama ang arabik mo, gusto ko kasing ihanda sa pagkikita natin dito tutal nandito ka naman sa saudi hindi ba, tuturuan kasi kita kung papaano ang pagkakaiba ng salita ng iba't ibang muslim na bansa sa salita sa Quran, itanong mo kay Messianico kung ilan taon na ako dito sa saudi arabia. Laughing

Tinatanong kita kung nag-aral ka sa Madrasah kasi ako ay nag-aral ako sa Mindanao at patuloy iyan dito sa Dawah Center kung saan gumagabay kami sa mga Balik Islam, kaya kung handa kang magpakita ay ituturo ko sa iyo iyong barok mong arabic Basketball

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Post by RavlaM on Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:29 am

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Sasabihin ko bang barok kung tama ang arabik mo, gusto ko kasing ihanda sa pagkikita natin dito tutal nandito ka naman sa saudi hindi ba, tuturuan kasi kita kung papaano ang pagkakaiba ng salita ng iba't ibang muslim na bansa sa salita sa Quran, itanong mo kay Messianico kung ilan taon na ako dito sa saudi arabia. Laughing

Tinatanong kita kung nag-aral ka sa Madrasah kasi ako ay nag-aral ako sa Mindanao at patuloy iyan dito sa Dawah Center kung saan gumagabay kami sa mga Balik Islam, kaya kung handa kang magpakita ay ituturo ko sa iyo iyong barok mong arabic Basketball

Naks! siguro nga po magaling kayo mg arabic pero puro lamang po salita yan..Pakita po ninyo ang pruweba para di kayo mabansagang puro hangin...

Sino po ang barok sa arabic, hahaha hindi mo ata alam ang sinasabi mo Harballah. Magpakita po kayo na kredebilidad bago kayo humusga.

Warini kaif enta kalem arabi, mumkin enta ma arif kalem. Ent arif ezrut bas.
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Post by harballah on Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:10 pm

Sabihin mo lang kung kailan mo gustong magpakita sa akin, ibibigay ko ang numero ko para makapag-usap tayo at sa ganoon ay kung gusto mo ng tutuong arabic ay sasamahan kita..... lol!

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Post by RavlaM on Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:49 pm

harballah wrote:Sabihin mo lang kung kailan mo gustong magpakita sa akin, ibibigay ko ang numero ko para makapag-usap tayo at sa ganoon ay kung gusto mo ng tutuong arabic ay sasamahan kita..... lol!

Ngatun ko napatunayan na di talaga kayo marunong at umintindi ng salitang arabic...nagtataka lang po ako eh sabi ninyo matagal na kayo dito, di ba kayo natuto magsalita at umintindi.

Paano po ninyo titindigan na ang "iqra" ay recite. Razz

Eyo egyptian naman..

Ya sahhat el beh zaiak ya beh, baulak eh ya harballah, laig enta makalem arabi. Ana bardo maalum kalem loca masria.
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Post by harballah on Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:08 pm

Harapan lang tayo ano po, ayaw ko kasing magyabang ng pagsasalita ng arabic lalo na kung katulad mong barok magsalita Twisted Evil

harballah wrote:Sabihin mo lang kung kailan mo gustong magpakita sa akin, ibibigay ko ang numero ko para makapag-usap tayo at sa ganoon ay kung gusto mo ng tutuong arabic ay sasamahan kita..... lol!


isa pa tinakasan mo na ito.



harballah wrote:Wow sino ang nagsalin ng grandquran na iyan, ito po kilalang tagasalin ng Quran.

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YUSUFALI: When thou dost recite the Qur'an, We put, between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter, a veil invisible:
PICKTHAL: And when thou recitest the Qur'an we place between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter a hidden barrier;
SHAKIR: And when you recite the Quran, We place between you and those who do not believe in the hereafter a hidden barrier;


http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/017.qmt.html

Nakita mo ang mga nagsasalin ay ibinabasi nila doon sa konteksto ng talata kung saan iyong Iqra ay puwedeng read at recites.....kaya nga huwag kang magmamagaling kasi kung wala kang alam sa Islam at nanghuhula ka lang ay hindi mo lubos malaman kung ano ang tama.

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Post by RavlaM on Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:23 pm

So alin po ang tama at mali? Patunayan po ninyo.

Khalifa
When you read the Quran, we place between you and those who do not believe in the Hereafter an invisible barrier.

Yusuf Ali
When thou dost recite the Qur'an, We put, between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter, a veil invisible:

Pickthal
And when thou recitest the Qur'an we place between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter a hidden barrier;
Shakir
And when you recite the Quran, We place between you and those who do not believe in the hereafter a hidden barrier;
Sher Ali
And when thou recitest the Qur'an, WE put between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter an invisible veil;

"Progressive Muslims"
And when you read the Quran, We place between you and those who do not believe in the Hereafter an invisible barrier.

http://www.islamic-dictionary.com/index.php?word=iqra
Word: Iqra
Meaning: Saying 'Iqra`' to someone is to order them to read. When Prophet Muhammed (SAW) was meditating in the cave of hiraa he was ordered to read by angel Jibraeel (Gabriel). Iqra` was the first word of the Quran that came upon the Prophet (SAW).
True Form: اقرء
Grammar: word;
Explanation The angel repeated the order: iqra! Read! as Muhammed explained he was unable to read, then Jibraeel said:
[96.1] Read in the name of your Lord Who created.
[96.2] He created man from a clot.
[96.3] Read and your Lord is Most Honorable,
[96.4] Who taught (man to write) with the pen
[96.5] Taught man what he knew not.
These are the first verses of the Quran that came down to the Prophet. Surprising isn't it!

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Post by harballah on Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:28 pm

RavlaM wrote:So alin po ang tama at mali? Patunayan po ninyo.

Khalifa
When you read the Quran, we place between you and those who do not believe in the Hereafter an invisible barrier.

Yusuf Ali
When thou dost recite the Qur'an, We put, between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter, a veil invisible:

Pickthal
And when thou recitest the Qur'an we place between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter a hidden barrier;
Shakir
And when you recite the Quran, We place between you and those who do not believe in the hereafter a hidden barrier;
Sher Ali
And when thou recitest the Qur'an, WE put between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter an invisible veil;

"Progressive Muslims"
And when you read the Quran, We place between you and those who do not believe in the Hereafter an invisible barrier.

http://www.islamic-dictionary.com/index.php?word=iqra
Word: Iqra
Meaning: Saying 'Iqra`' to someone is to order them to read. When Prophet Muhammed (SAW) was meditating in the cave of hiraa he was ordered to read by angel Jibraeel (Gabriel). Iqra` was the first word of the Quran that came upon the Prophet (SAW).
True Form: اقرء
Grammar: word;
Explanation The angel repeated the order: iqra! Read! as Muhammed explained he was unable to read, then Jibraeel said:
[96.1] Read in the name of your Lord Who created.
[96.2] He created man from a clot.
[96.3] Read and your Lord is Most Honorable,
[96.4] Who taught (man to write) with the pen
[96.5] Taught man what he knew not.
These are the first verses of the Quran that came down to the Prophet. Surprising isn't it!



Nabasa mo ba ang inilatag mo diyan sa recite (BLUEMARK) ay apat na tagasalin at iyong read (REDMARK) ay dalawa lamang, sino ngayon ang tama lol!

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Re: read! In the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists).

Post by RavlaM on Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:17 am

Pero patunay po na hindi talaga absolute ang pagkiling sa inyo.

Unang una na po ay ang thread na ito ay nakatutok sa "iqra" na ibinulong ni angel jibreel (daw) sa kuweba.

Malinaw po sa inilatag kong nagmula sa islamic dictionary...Iqra ay isang pagutos na magkaroon ng kaalaman bumasa.
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Re: read! In the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists).

Post by harballah on Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:34 am

RavlaM wrote:Pero patunay po na hindi talaga absolute ang pagkiling sa inyo.

Unang una na po ay ang thread na ito ay nakatutok sa "iqra" na ibinulong ni angel jibreel (daw) sa kuweba.

Malinaw po sa inilatag kong nagmula sa islamic dictionary...Iqra ay isang pagutos na magkaroon ng kaalaman bumasa.

O kita mo ikaw na mismo ang naglatag ng mga salin at natalo ka sa bilangan kasi apat versus dalawa Laughing

Uulitin natin, may binabasa ba ang propheta Muhammad (pbuh) sa kuweba, sige nga pakisagot ng deretsahan.

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