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Re: read! In the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists).

Post by RavlaM on Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:52 am

harballah wrote:

Bakit naman naging malabo sa inyo, hindi ba sabi mo si Propheta Muhammad (pbuh) at anghel gabriel ang nasa kuweba ng ipahayag ang rebelasyon, ngayon sila parin iyan nasa hadith na paskil ko kung saan pinabigkas parin ulit ng anghel gabriel kay Muhammad (pbuh) ang kapahayagan at hindi po pinabasa, ano ngayon ang malabo diyan lol!

Ha! gusto mo po sabihin na ang kuniksyon at magpapatunay ng talata ko at ahadith mo ay wala sa sustansya ng ahadith mo kundi ang mga persona ng naguusap? Nakakita ka lang ng "recite" sa ahadith eh sasabihin mo katumbas nito ang "read" dahil si Mohammad at si angel jibreel (kuno) ang naguusa...wala sa sustansya ng haddith! Masyado namang kabobohan po yan bounce

Sa totoo lang po eh napakabobo naman po ng argumentong pinaghahawakan mo. pig
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Re: read! In the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists).

Post by harballah on Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:44 pm

Sapagkat sa Islam ay hindi lang sa Quran nakabasi kundi sa hadith at sunnah ng propeta Muhammad (pbuh).

Kaya nga iyong talata sa Quran ay nasa hadith din, kaso lang mayroon nagmamagaling na isang Ravlam na tulad ng ibang kristiyano ay namulot sa anti-islam websites at ginagawang argumento sa kabila ng hindi nila nauunawaan kung bakit ginamit ng pinagkunan nila.

Napatunayan natin na sumang-ayon ka na si Anghel Gabriel ang kausap ng propheta sa kuweba, so bakit ngayon hindi ka nananiwala na siya rin iyong kausap niya dito sa hadith.

Sahih Bukhari:
"The Prophet used to recite the Holy Qur'an to gabriel (Book #31, Hadith #126)"

Sahih Muslim:
"and Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) recited to him the Qur'an; (Book #030, Hadith #5718)"

Ayan binibigkas po kasi wala naman aklat ng Quran na hawak-hawak siya atsaka hindi po siya nakakabasa Laughing

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Re: read! In the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists).

Post by RavlaM on Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:09 pm

harballah wrote:Sapagkat sa Islam ay hindi lang sa Quran nakabasi kundi sa hadith at sunnah ng propeta Muhammad (pbuh).

Kaya nga iyong talata sa Quran ay nasa hadith din, kaso lang mayroon nagmamagaling na isang Ravlam na tulad ng ibang kristiyano ay namulot sa anti-islam websites at ginagawang argumento sa kabila ng hindi nila nauunawaan kung bakit ginamit ng pinagkunan nila.

Napatunayan natin na sumang-ayon ka na si Anghel Gabriel ang kausap ng propheta sa kuweba, so bakit ngayon hindi ka nananiwala na siya rin iyong kausap niya dito sa hadith.

Sahih Bukhari:
"The Prophet used to recite the Holy Qur'an to gabriel (Book #31, Hadith #126)"

Sahih Muslim:
"and Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) recited to him the Qur'an; (Book #030, Hadith #5718)"

Ayan binibigkas po kasi wala naman aklat ng Quran na hawak-hawak siya atsaka hindi po siya nakakabasa Laughing

Nakakatawa na po kayo...ang patunay po ninyo ay hindi sa sustansya ng inilatag ninyo kundi dahil lamang sa sila rin ang nagusap sa magkakaibang pagkakataon.
Ang sistema po ninyo eh nagusap muli ang dalawa at nagamit ang katagang "recite" eh tinumbuk mo na.

Magbigay po naman kayo ng kapanipaniwalang diskurso.
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Re: read! In the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists).

Post by harballah on Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:08 pm

RavlaM wrote:

Nakakatawa na po kayo...ang patunay po ninyo ay hindi sa sustansya ng inilatag ninyo kundi dahil lamang sa sila rin ang nagusap sa magkakaibang pagkakataon.
Ang sistema po ninyo eh nagusap muli ang dalawa at nagamit ang katagang "recite" eh tinumbuk mo na.

Magbigay po naman kayo ng kapanipaniwalang diskurso.


May koneksiyon kasi iyan, sige nga pakita ka ng katibayan na ang read na nabasa mo sa translation ay nagbabasa, pakita mo kung ano ang aklat ng pinababasa sa propheta latag mo na iyong verse pero takecare ayaw ko ng puro laway lang.

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Re: read! In the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists).

Post by RavlaM on Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:45 pm

IRefresh ko lang po sa inyo:

http://www.islamic-dictionary.com/index.php?word=iqra
Word: Iqra
Meaning: Saying 'Iqra`' to someone is to order them to read. When Prophet Muhammed (SAW) was meditating in the cave of hiraa he was ordered to read by angel Jibraeel (Gabriel). Iqra` was the first word of the Quran that came upon the Prophet (SAW).
True Form: اقرء
Grammar: word;
Explanation The angel repeated the order: iqra! Read! as Muhammed explained he was unable to read, then Jibraeel said:
[96.1] Read in the name of your Lord Who created.
[96.2] He created man from a clot.
[96.3] Read and your Lord is Most Honorable,
[96.4] Who taught (man to write) with the pen
[96.5] Taught man what he knew not.
These are the first verses of the Quran that came down to the Prophet. Surprising isn't it!

Sa islamic dictionary po galing yan...hindi nila inemphasize kung read ay recite din.
mg react po sana kayo.
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sana magresponce si ravlam ng hindi puro laway

Post by harballah on Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:57 pm

Naku sinagot kana ni jewel diyan, nagmamagaling ka kasi sa isang katuruan na hindi naman iyo.


Jewel wrote:

Lumbas din na mahina ka nga kasi nakikipagtalo ka sa terminologies ng Quran samantalang dictionary ka lang pala umaasa hehheehehe

hindi dyan ang dapat mong puntahan malvar boy, kumunsulta ka sa arabic lexi at sa tafaseer ng quran para maintindihan mo ang boong meaning hehehhehe

IQRA means either READ or RECITE depending on the context. kaya kapag sinabi sayo na IQRA suratul fatiha bi kulli salah, ibig sabihin ay e-recite mo kasi hindi ka dapat magbasa ng libro sa salah.

Ang ibinigay sayo ng dictionary ay isang meaning lang ng Iqra kasi hindi naman tungkol sa quran ang binigyan ng definition nun hehhehe

oh ito basahin mo:


read

–verb (used with object)

1. to look at carefully so as to understand the meaning of (something written, printed, etc.): to read a book; to read music.



2. to utter aloud or render in speech : reading a story to his children; The actor read his lines in a booming voice.

kita mo na, dalawa ang meaning ng read kahit sa English language?


nagmamarunong ka kasi s ISlam mangmang ka naman


Papaano nga naman magbasa ang propheta gayong ang linaw ng sabi ng Allah subhana wa taalah, ito basahin mo ang patungkol sa kanya (Muhammad).


7:157-158
"Those who follow the apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper." day: "O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to Whom belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death. So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, who believeth in Allah and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided."


62:2
It is He Who has sent amongst the unlettered an apostle from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to sanctify them, and to instruct them in Scripture and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error;-


Ayan malinaw na alam ng Allah subhana wa taalah na ang kanyang propheta na isusugo ay hindi nakakabasa, papaano mo naisip na ipinababasa iyong Iqra.

Ito bibigyan kita ng sampol mula sa talata sa Quran.

17:45
When thou dost recite the Qur'an, We put, between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter, a veil invisible:


a) When thou dost recite the Qur'an

b) وَإِذَا قَرَأْتَ الْقُرْآنَ


c) Waitha qarata al'qurana

Ayan malinaw na iyong nasa Quran 17:45 ay isinalin sa word na Qarata/recite, ito pa baka sabihin mo tulad mo ako na puro laway lang ang sagot.

Ang dictionary ng Islam sites na aking source.


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Re: read! In the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists).

Post by RavlaM on Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:16 am

Andami po ninyong pinagsasabi. Puwede bang ipakita mo ang kuniksyon ng mga verses mo sa tanong ko...sinabi ba nila na ang "read " ay recite din?

Nakakatawa po ang source ng dictionary mo...ano po ba yan. http://profile.imageshack.us/user/jeddahstorm

Tingnan po ninyo na galing sa "Islamic Dictionary" ang pinoste ko.
http://www.islamic-dictionary.com/index.php?word=iqra

Parang niloloko ka po lamang ng diksyonaryo na kinunan mo.

Di ba niyan alam na ang "recite eh "Yatloo".

Sulat na lang po muna kayo sa "Islamic Dictionary" doon na kayo magpaliwanag. tongue
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Re: read! In the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists).

Post by harballah on Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:35 am

RavlaM wrote:Andami po ninyong pinagsasabi. Puwede bang ipakita mo ang kuniksyon ng mga verses mo sa tanong ko...sinabi ba nila na ang "read " ay recite din?

Nakakatawa po ang source ng dictionary mo...ano po ba yan. http://profile.imageshack.us/user/jeddahstorm

Tingnan po ninyo na galing sa "Islamic Dictionary" ang pinoste ko.
http://www.islamic-dictionary.com/index.php?word=iqra

Parang niloloko ka po lamang ng diksyonaryo na kinunan mo.

Di ba niyan alam na ang "recite eh "Yatloo".

Sulat na lang po muna kayo sa "Islamic Dictionary" doon na kayo magpaliwanag. tongue

Kapag puro laway talaga ang pansagot ng kausap mo masasayang ang pagod mo, iyong arabic translation diyan ay galing dito.
http://www.searchtruth.com/dictionary/arabic_english_dictionary.php?word=++%D8%A5%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A3++&translate=atoe&word_option=1

Inilagay ko lang sa imageshack para pumasok sa utak mo at puwede kung ulit-ulitin na ipaskil para matuto ka.


So, wala ka ng maisagot dito at puwede ng ipasara sa ADMIN kasi laway at laway lang pansagot mo dito.


harballah wrote:Papaano nga naman magbasa ang propheta gayong ang linaw ng sabi ng Allah subhana wa taalah, ito basahin mo ang patungkol sa kanya (Muhammad).


7:157-158
"Those who follow the apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper." day: "O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to Whom belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death. So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, who believeth in Allah and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided."


62:2
It is He Who has sent amongst the unlettered an apostle from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to sanctify them, and to instruct them in Scripture and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error;-


Ayan malinaw na alam ng Allah subhana wa taalah na ang kanyang propheta na isusugo ay hindi nakakabasa, papaano mo naisip na ipinababasa iyong Iqra.

Ito bibigyan kita ng sampol mula sa talata sa Quran.

17:45
When thou dost recite the Qur'an, We put, between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter, a veil invisible:


a) When thou dost recite the Qur'an

b) وَإِذَا قَرَأْتَ الْقُرْآنَ


c) Waitha qarata al'qurana

Ayan malinaw na iyong nasa Quran 17:45 ay isinalin sa word na Qarata/recite, ito pa baka sabihin mo tulad mo ako na puro laway lang ang sagot.

Ang dictionary ng Islam sites na aking source.


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Nakakatawa si ravlam niloko daw ako nong pinagkunan ko na jeddahstorm, hindi ba niya alam na akin po ang jeddahstorm na iyan, kapag hindi kasi gumagamit ng utak ang kausap mo para bang kagagaling lang sa mental institution Laughing

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Re: read! In the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists).

Post by RavlaM on Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:15 am

Naku naman po, alin po ba ang mali ang Islamic dictionary, o yang inilatag mo?

Mukhang hindi unanimous ang nangyari.

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another supalpal history of ravlam

Post by harballah on Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:50 am

RavlaM wrote:Naku naman po, alin po ba ang mali ang Islamic dictionary, o yang inilatag mo?

Mukhang hindi unanimous ang nangyari.


Nabasa mo iyong orihinal na link kung saan inilagay ko lang po sa imageshack para ipangsiksik sa utak mo, ano nasupalpal ka nito.





By jeddahstorm at 2010-10-08[/quote]


Ang link source ng pinagkunan niyan, para makita mo na inilagay ko lang sa imageshack para makita mong mabuti ang nilalaman.

http://www.searchtruth.com/dictionary/arabic_english_dictionary.php?word=++%D8%A5%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A3++&translate=atoe&word_option=1

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Post by RavlaM on Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:01 pm

Hahaha may tatalo pa po ba sa "islamic dictionary...

Malinaw po sa site na binaggit ko at inilatag din nila ang mismong talata na pinatutukuyan.......
Suriin po ninyo.. affraid



http://www.islamic-dictionary.com/index.php?word=iqra
Word: Iqra
Meaning: Saying 'Iqra`' to someone is to order them to read. When Prophet Muhammed (SAW) was meditating in the cave of hiraa he was ordered to read by angel Jibraeel (Gabriel). Iqra` was the first word of the Quran that came upon the Prophet (SAW).
True Form: اقرء
Grammar: word;


Explanation The angel repeated the order: iqra! Read! as Muhammed explained he was unable to read, then Jibraeel said:

[96.1] Read in the name of your Lord Who created.

[96.2] He created man from a clot.

[96.3] Read and your Lord is Most Honorable,

[96.4] Who taught (man to write) with the pen

[96.5] Taught man what he knew not.

These are the first verses of the Quran that came down to the Prophet. Surprising isn't it!
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kapag puro laway lang ang sagot, para kang nakipag-usap sa <None ethical word>

Post by harballah on Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:49 pm

Ito na ba iyong sinasabi ko na nagsasayang lang ako ng oras sa isang puro laway lang, paulit-ulit lang imbes na i-refute ang inilatag ko dito, nagmamagaling kasi pero supalpal naman Laughing

harballah wrote:Naku sinagot kana ni jewel diyan, nagmamagaling ka kasi sa isang katuruan na hindi naman iyo.





Papaano nga naman magbasa ang propheta gayong ang linaw ng sabi ng Allah subhana wa taalah, ito basahin mo ang patungkol sa kanya (Muhammad).


7:157-158
"Those who follow the apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper." day: "O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to Whom belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death. So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, who believeth in Allah and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided."


62:2
It is He Who has sent amongst the unlettered an apostle from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to sanctify them, and to instruct them in Scripture and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error;-


Ayan malinaw na alam ng Allah subhana wa taalah na ang kanyang propheta na isusugo ay hindi nakakabasa, papaano mo naisip na ipinababasa iyong Iqra.

Ito bibigyan kita ng sampol mula sa talata sa Quran.

17:45
When thou dost recite the Qur'an, We put, between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter, a veil invisible:


a) When thou dost recite the Qur'an

b) وَإِذَا قَرَأْتَ الْقُرْآنَ


c) Waitha qarata al'qurana

Ayan malinaw na iyong nasa Quran 17:45 ay isinalin sa word na Qarata/recite, ito pa baka sabihin mo tulad mo ako na puro laway lang ang sagot.

Ang dictionary ng Islam sites na aking source.


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Re: read! In the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists).

Post by RavlaM on Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:11 pm

Sa mga inilatag ninyong talata, puwede po bang ieksplika mo ng maigi kung paano sinasabi diyan na ang katagang "read" ay recite din ang ipinatutukoy sa katagang "read" sa talatang inilatag ko.

Sa Islamic dictionary ay sinabi na ang "iqra" ay read.

They even mentioned the verses as example..

Tingnan po ninyo.

http://www.islamic-dictionary.com/index.php?word=iqra
Word: Iqra
Meaning: Saying 'Iqra`' to someone is to order them to read. When Prophet Muhammed (SAW) was meditating in the cave of hiraa he was ordered to read by angel Jibraeel (Gabriel). Iqra` was the first word of the Quran that came upon the Prophet (SAW).
True Form: اقرء
Grammar: word;


Explanation The angel repeated the order: iqra! Read! as Muhammed explained he was unable to read, then Jibraeel said:

[96.1] Read in the name of your Lord Who created.

[96.2] He created man from a clot.

[96.3] Read and your Lord is Most Honorable,

[96.4] Who taught (man to write) with the pen

[96.5] Taught man what he knew not.

These are the first verses of the Quran that came down to the Prophet. Surprising isn't it!
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sayang ang post ko kung ang kausap mo ay puro laway

Post by harballah on Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:01 am

Hay! naku hirap talaga kapag kausap mo ay puro laway, useless lang ang mga inilalatag ko....

Tell me lang kapag handa ka ng sagutin ito.

7:157-158
"Those who follow the apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper." day: "O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to Whom belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death. So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, who believeth in Allah and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided."


62:2
It is He Who has sent amongst the unlettered an apostle from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to sanctify them, and to instruct them in Scripture and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error;-


Ayan malinaw na alam ng Allah subhana wa taalah na ang kanyang propheta na isusugo ay hindi nakakabasa, papaano mo naisip na ipinababasa iyong Iqra.

Ito bibigyan kita ng sampol mula sa talata sa Quran.

17:45
When thou dost recite the Qur'an, We put, between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter, a veil invisible:


a) When thou dost recite the Qur'an

b) وَإِذَا قَرَأْتَ الْقُرْآنَ


c) Waitha qarata al'qurana

Ayan malinaw na iyong nasa Quran 17:45 ay isinalin sa word na Qarata/recite, ito pa baka sabihin mo tulad mo ako na puro laway lang ang sagot.

Ang dictionary ng Islam sites na aking source.


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Post by RavlaM on Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:23 am

Alam po ninyo ilang sets na ng mga talata at ahadith ang inilatag ninyo dito pero di nyo manlang maipaliwanag ang gusto ninyong ipahiwatig na kuniksyon sa ating issue.

Funny sa dictionariong arabic english na inilatag mo eh hindi ata nila alam na ang Yatloo ang ibig sabihin ay recite....
Gusto ko pong sabihin sa mga nagbabasa dito na ito ay symptomas na wala talaga silang argumentong itatapat sa binaggit ni angel jibreel (kuno)
na "read"

Kaya pinagpilitan na ang read ay recite daw. affraid
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Post by harballah on Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:22 am

RavlaM wrote:Alam po ninyo ilang sets na ng mga talata at ahadith ang inilatag ninyo dito pero di nyo manlang maipaliwanag ang gusto ninyong ipahiwatig na kuniksyon sa ating issue.

Funny sa dictionariong arabic english na inilatag mo eh hindi ata nila alam na ang Yatloo ang ibig sabihin ay recite....
Gusto ko pong sabihin sa mga nagbabasa dito na ito ay symptomas na wala talaga silang argumentong itatapat sa binaggit ni angel jibreel (kuno)
na "read"

Kaya pinagpilitan na ang read ay recite daw. affraid

Saan mo napulot na ang yatloo ay recite Laughing

Kapag nasagot mo na inilatag ko diyan ay paki-gising lang ako kasi mahirap kausap iyong tulog ang utak Sleep

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Post by RavlaM on Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:12 am

Eto po ang ebidens...

"HUWALLAZEE BA'ATHA FIL UMMIYYEENA RASOOLAN MINHUM YATLOO ALAIHIM AAYAATIHI WAYUZAKKEEHIM WAYU'ALLIMUHUMUL KITAABA WAL HIKMAH; WA INN KAANOO MIN QABLU LAFEE DALAALIN MUBEEN; WA AAKHAREENA MINHUM LAMMAA YALHAQOO BIHIM, WA HUWAL AZEEZUL HAKEEM" (Al Jum'ah)

HE IT IS WHO HAS RAISED AMONG THE UNLETTERED A MESSENGER FROM AMONG THEMSELVES WHO RECITES UNTO THEM HIS SIGNS, AND PURIFIES THEM, AND TEACHES THEM THE BOOK AND WISDOM, ALTHOUGH THEY HAD BEEN, BEFORE, IN MANIFEST MISGUIDANCE. AND AMONG OTHERS FROM AMONG THEM WHO HAVE NOT YET JOINED THEM. HE IS THE MIGHTY, THE WISE (The Holy Quran, 62:3-4)


http://www.real-islam.org/khatim2.htm
Ayan po affraid
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Post by harballah on Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:37 am

Matanong muna kita, sigurado ka bang nasa ayat 3 and 4 iyan?

Tingnan natin kung sigurado ang namumulot ng websites

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Post by RavlaM on Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:58 am

harballah wrote:Matanong muna kita, sigurado ka bang nasa ayat 3 and 4 iyan?

Tingnan natin kung sigurado ang namumulot ng websites

Eto pa po.... Wala na po kayong lusot tongue http://www.guidedways.com/chapter_display.php?chapter=62&translator=6&mac=&show_arabic=1


2. هُوَ الَّذِي بَعَثَ فِي الْأُمِّيِّينَ رَسُولًا مِنْهُمْ يَتْلُو عَلَيْهِمْ آيَاتِهِ وَيُزَكِّيهِمْ وَيُعَلِّمُهُمُ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَإِنْ كَانُوا مِنْ قَبْلُ لَفِي ضَلَالٍ مُبِينٍ
Huwa allathee baAAatha fee alommiyyeena rasoolan minhum yatloo AAalayhim ayatihi wayuzakkeehim wayuAAallimuhumu alkitaba waalhikmata wain kanoo min qablu lafee dalalin mubeenin
3. وَآخَرِينَ مِنْهُمْ لَمَّا يَلْحَقُوا بِهِمْ ۚ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الْحَكِيمُ
Waakhareena minhum lamma yalhaqoo bihim wahuwa alAAazeezu alhakeemu
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Post by harballah on Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:52 am

Kitam huhugot ka ng mga talata at ibabasi mo lang doon sa nakita mo, ngayon papaano ka nakakasiguro na iyong yatloo na iyan ay recite.....

Sige po pakituruan mo muna ako kasi mahirap ng nakita mo lang gumawa ka ng istorya.

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Post by RavlaM on Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:22 pm

harballah wrote:Kitam huhugot ka ng mga talata at ibabasi mo lang doon sa nakita mo, ngayon papaano ka nakakasiguro na iyong yatloo na iyan ay recite.....

Sige po pakituruan mo muna ako kasi mahirap ng nakita mo lang gumawa ka ng istorya.

Teka, marunong po ba katong mag translate ng arabic
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Post by harballah on Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:53 pm

RavlaM wrote:

Teka, marunong po ba katong mag translate ng arabic

Ikaw ang tinatanong ko kung papaano ka nakakasiguro na iyong yatloo ay recite, huwag mo akong tanungin kasi pinag-aaralan namin ang arabic sa madrasah (arabic school) pero ikaw ba alam mo ang arabic o nanghuhula ka lang doon sa transliteration.

Pakisagot lang po kasi parang mas marunong pa kayo sa amin, in fact ni hindi mo na ginalaw ang post kung ito.

Nagsasayang ba ako ng oras sa inyo.

Natatakot ka bang masupalpal nitong english with arabic translation.

17:45
When thou dost recite the Qur'an, We put, between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter, a veil invisible:


a) When thou dost recite the Qur'an

b) وَإِذَا قَرَأْتَ الْقُرْآنَ

c) Waitha qarata al'qurana


harballah wrote:Hay! naku hirap talaga kapag kausap mo ay puro laway, useless lang ang mga inilalatag ko....

Tell me lang kapag handa ka ng sagutin ito.

7:157-158
"Those who follow the apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper." day: "O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to Whom belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death. So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, who believeth in Allah and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided."


62:2
It is He Who has sent amongst the unlettered an apostle from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to sanctify them, and to instruct them in Scripture and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error;-


Ayan malinaw na alam ng Allah subhana wa taalah na ang kanyang propheta na isusugo ay hindi nakakabasa, papaano mo naisip na ipinababasa iyong Iqra.

Ito bibigyan kita ng sampol mula sa talata sa Quran.

17:45
When thou dost recite the Qur'an, We put, between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter, a veil invisible:


a) When thou dost [b]recite
the Qur'an

b) وَإِذَا قَرَأْتَ الْقُرْآنَ


c) Waitha qarata al'qurana

Ayan malinaw na iyong nasa Quran 17:45 ay isinalin sa word na Qarata/recite, ito pa baka sabihin mo tulad mo ako na puro laway lang ang sagot.

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Post by RavlaM on Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:57 pm

Hahaha balik ka nanaman sa umpisa kasi nasupalpal ka.

Malinaw sa quranic translations na hindi ginamit ng quran ang "iqra" as recite.
it used the word "yatloo" as recite.
Pinakita ko na po sa iyo ang ebidens.
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Post by harballah on Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:37 pm

RavlaM wrote:Hahaha balik ka nanaman sa umpisa kasi nasupalpal ka.

Malinaw sa quranic translations na hindi ginamit ng quran ang "iqra" as recite.
it used the word "yatloo" as recite.
Pinakita ko na po sa iyo ang ebidens.

Naku hindi mo pa kasi nasagot itong post ko atsaka hindi mo rin masiguro ang sagot mo sa tanong ko.

Ayaw mo bang bigyan pansin ito man lang.

Natatakot ka bang masupalpal nitong english with arabic translation.

17:45
When thou dost recite the Qur'an, We put, between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter, a veil invisible:


a) When thou dost [b]recite
the Qur'an

b) وَإِذَا قَرَأْتَ الْقُرْآنَ

c) Waitha qarata al'qurana



Sige na tutal usapin naman natin ay about recite, ano po ang sabi diyan iyong word na waitha qarata ?

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Post by RavlaM on Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:19 pm

harballah wrote:

Naku hindi mo pa kasi nasagot itong post ko atsaka hindi mo rin masiguro ang sagot mo sa tanong ko.

Ayaw mo bang bigyan pansin ito man lang.

Natatakot ka bang masupalpal nitong english with arabic translation.

17:45
When thou dost recite the Qur'an, We put, between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter, a veil invisible:


a) When thou dost [b]recite
the Qur'an

b) وَإِذَا قَرَأْتَ الْقُرْآنَ

c) Waitha qarata al'qurana



Sige na tutal usapin naman natin ay about recite, ano po ang sabi diyan iyong word na waitha qarata ?

Kayo po ang naglatag niyan..kumbinsihin mo ako.
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