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My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by Ateo on Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:32 am

fredms3 wrote:How about sa part mo? Di ka ba guilty dyan sa Utensils na yan.

Teka di naman siguro bulok yang Utensils na yan ha Very Happy


Nabasa mo ba ang blog site o nag-rereact ka lang without reading? Alin doon pagmumura ko laban kay Fr. Abe? Aling parte sinabi ko na Padre Damaso siya?

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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by fredms3 on Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:37 am

Debate? Baka naman beauty contest ang bagsakan niyo nyan ha Ateo Very Happy

Di ko lang alam kung me panahon sa ganyan si Fr. Abe. Nakakausap mo naman siya better na hamunin mo ng diretsahan si Fr. para first-hand mong makuha ang sagot niya.

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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by fredms3 on Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:41 am

Ateo wrote:


Nabasa mo ba ang blog site o nag-rereact ka lang without reading? Alin doon pagmumura ko laban kay Fr. Abe? Aling parte sinabi ko na Padre Damaso siya?

Nabasa ko yung post mo about "Damaso" but di malinaw sa post mo na yun kung directly na itinukoy mo sa kanya yun, but it was as if you meant it dahil yun ang lumalabas sa punto ni Fr. Abe.

Dahil di malinaw sa akin ang bagay na yan kaya silent lang ako sa kurutan niyo ni Fr.

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Post by harballah on Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:43 am

fredms3 wrote:Ano ba ang turo ni Supreme Pasta Ateo pagdating sa mga ganyang pagkakataon?

Huwag sana ninyong ikasama ng loob na mga kabigan ko dito, pero sa tutuo lang hindi maganda ang sampol na ipinapakita ni Father Abe doon lalo na kung pari siya at maraming nakakabasa ng post niya, si Marc nga ay hindi rin agreed sa ginagawa ni Father Abe..

In fact kayo ang may katuruan ng "LOVE YOUR ENEMIES" at dapat maging mahinahon din si Father Abe para maakit niya ang ibang tao na maniwala sa sinasabi niya.

Opinyon ko lang ito buddy sana huwag ninyong isipin na ganoon ang tingin ko sa inyo dito.

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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by Ateo on Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:49 am

fredms3 wrote:Debate? Baka naman beauty contest ang bagsakan niyo nyan ha Ateo Very Happy



Teka, teka, Fr. Abe, Fr. Abe, Fr. Abe, may isusumbong ako...... Nabasa mo ba ang sinulat ni Fred?

Sabi ni Fred ay lumalaban ka raw ng beauty contest. Totoo po ba ito? Ikaw ba si Ms. Major Major, na bicolana?

Debate lang po ang gusto ko, pero itong si Fred, o, very naughty. I-excom kaya natin ito, he he he he.

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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by MarcCatholic on Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:19 am

Ahehe. Beauty pageant ba. Actually, yong mga posts ko kay father hindi rin lumalabas. Very Happy
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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by Ateo on Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:45 am

Naku pag nabasa ni padre itong mga latest posts (o di kaya ng kanyang acolyte na si Lambanog) ay malaking gulo ito.

Father, debate lang po ang gusto ko. Kung ibang contests ay ayaw ko na po. Puno na kasi ng trophy ang kwarto ko at di na naniniwala ang tatay ko na sa basketball tournament ko napanalunan lahat yun. Very Happy

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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by MarcCatholic on Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:58 am

Ahahahaha. Basketball. Naku pwede bang sa Miss Gay? Totoo ba yan Ateo? Very Happy
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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by Dhugz on Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:44 am

harballah wrote:

Huwag sana ninyong ikasama ng loob na mga kabigan ko dito, pero sa tutuo lang hindi maganda ang sampol na ipinapakita ni Father Abe doon lalo na kung pari siya at maraming nakakabasa ng post niya, si Marc nga ay hindi rin agreed sa ginagawa ni Father Abe..

In fact kayo ang may katuruan ng "LOVE YOUR ENEMIES" at dapat maging mahinahon din si Father Abe para maakit niya ang ibang tao na maniwala sa sinasabi niya.

Opinyon ko lang ito buddy sana huwag ninyong isipin na ganoon ang tingin ko sa inyo dito.

Naiintindihan ko. Talagang ganun eh. Di din ako sang ayon sa inaasal sa ngayon ni Father Abe. Darating din ang araw maiisip din niyang nagkamali siya.
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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by adanedhel on Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:45 am

Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect... - 1 Peter 3:15

Obviously hindi nagiging gentle at respectable si Fr Abe..kaya my sympathy goes to Bro Ateo. Panu kung ako yung may tanong na atheist ang dating ganyan ba nya ko sagutin?
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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by Dhugz on Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:49 am

That is true.... Naiintindihan ko pa kung isang ordinary Catholic lang na nagtatanggol sa Catholic Church ang may ganung asal dahil normal iyon ordinary members. Eh Pari po si father Abe eh. All Catholics lets pray our Priests na sana manatili silang kalmado at hindi sila matatalo ng kanilang galit.
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I am Catholic are YOU?

Post by Yidda on Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:35 am

Ateo is atheist!


I've decided not to argue to this atheist from this NPS site permanently, as of October 8, unless he repents. Undermining of Church doctrine and calling “God a liar”(1) , the way he treat Fr. Abe and other blasphemous post. He is not here for the purpose of expressing and exchanging opinions.


I'm not going to continue to argue with this atheist,and I recommend that you either reply to him from your own faith and reason, or ignore him. There is no reasoning with people like him.


1)post 29: http://www.thebereans.net/forum2/showthread.php?t=50680&page=2
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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by Ateo on Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:05 pm

Yidda is theist!

I will not argue with that woman for this NPS site permanently as of 8 Oct. 2010, unless she treats me as a person and not just call me as "this atheist".

Yes, I called God a liar, but anybody is free to counter-argue that. I did not speak ex-cathedra.

God told Adam not to eat of the Tree of Knowledge "for in the day you eat of it you shall die". Gen 2:17
The serpent then tells Eve that she will not die. Gen 3:5

Adam lived hundreds of years. Of course, there are ways to justify how God could not have lied, but those are mere alibis.

I am not going to continue to argue with that woman. She merely spew out standard and boring dogma that nobody reads anyway. There is no reasoning with people like her.

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Post by korrill on Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:54 pm

Yidda wrote:Ateo is atheist!


I've decided not to argue to this atheist from this NPS site permanently, as of October 8, unless he repents. Undermining of Church doctrine and calling “God a liar”(1) , the way he treat Fr. Abe and other blasphemous post. He is not here for the purpose of expressing and exchanging opinions.


I'm not going to continue to argue with this atheist,and I recommend that you either reply to him from your own faith and reason, or ignore him. There is no reasoning with people like him.


1)post 29: http://www.thebereans.net/forum2/showthread.php?t=50680&page=2
I have no intention of being disrespectful of anyone but the whole Fr. Abe issue reminds me of this:



I don't condone using personal attacks and neither do I fully agree with Ateo. But his actions hardly qualify to make the situation as "Ateo's treatment of Fr. Abe."

Especially since it's quite easy to see in the blog which side decided to turn it into an insultathon.
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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by Dhugz on Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:27 pm

Yidda wrote:Ateo is atheist!


I've decided not to argue to this atheist from this NPS site permanently, as of October 8, unless he repents. Undermining of Church doctrine and calling “God a liar”(1) , the way he treat Fr. Abe and other blasphemous post. He is not here for the purpose of expressing and exchanging opinions.


I'm not going to continue to argue with this atheist,and I recommend that you either reply to him from your own faith and reason, or ignore him. There is no reasoning with people like him.


1)post 29: http://www.thebereans.net/forum2/showthread.php?t=50680&page=2

Sana huwag naman tayong maging Close Minded, tingin mo ba tama ang inasal ni Father Abe? Kahit pa murahin ni ateo si Father Abe, wala pa ding karapatan si father Abe na bumaba sa mga ganoong level. Mataas ang pinag aralan ni Father Abe, sana hindi niya babalewalain lang iyon. Ang hirap ipagtanggol ang Iglesia Katolika kung mga mga ganitong kinasasangkutan ng mga namumuno sa Iglesia. Isipin lang ni Father Abe Pari siya, Ama ng mga Katoliko at hindi katoliko. Katoliko at hindi dapat trinatrato pa rin niyang mga Anak pare pareho. Ok lang magalit si Father, ok lang mambulyaw siya huwag lang gagamit ng mga salitang hindi angkop sa isang Priest.
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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by harballah on Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:02 pm

Dhugz wrote:

Naiintindihan ko. Talagang ganun eh. Di din ako sang ayon sa inaasal sa ngayon ni Father Abe. Darating din ang araw maiisip din niyang nagkamali siya.

Alam mo ba ang nakakabahala diyan ay papaano mangumpisal ang isang tulad ninyo kay Father Abe kung mismong paring tulad niya ay dapat din mangumpisal sa inaasal niya, naalaala ko pa nga ang nabasa ko sa bibliya ninyo na ganito ang pagkasabi.

Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. (Ephesians 4:29

Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing. (1 Peter 3:9)

Warn those who are idle, encourage the timid, help the weak, be patient with everyone. Make sure that nobody pays back wrong for wrong, but always try to be kind to each other and to everyone else. (1 Thessalonians 5:14-15)

Do not have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. (2 Timothy 2:23)

Siguro naman ay alam ni Father Abe iyan at isa iyan sa mga ipinapangaral niya tuwing misa sa simbahan, mabuti naman at hindi ninyo suportado ang kanyang inaasal.

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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by MarcCatholic on Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:10 am

Kuya Harby, si Father Abe ay hindi mo mahuhusgahan dahil lang sa kanyang inasal sa blog. Ano po bang alam natin sa buhay niya? Malay ba natin kung napakabait pala niya? Virtual life is very different to real life. Hindi nyo naman po kailangang ipangalandakan e dahil malaki na si Father at alam niya yon. Mabuti kung paalalahanan lang pero yong tipong hindi niya alam kung saan yan sa bible, o kung hindi niya alam ang ginagawa niya, yon ang mali. Alam ko aware siya kahit palagay pa nating mali siya. Pati, yong tungkol sa pangungumpisal, hindi po kayang hadlangan ng kasalanan ang grasya ng Diyos. Ang mga pari ay kasangkapan ng sakramento at sila ang nagsasagawa nito. For sure pinagdarasal din nila ito. At least nga e humble silang aminin na nagkakasala talaga sila at kung bawian man sila ng buhay ngayon ay hindi pa nila "talagang" napaghandaan ang panibagong buhay sa Diyos. Yong iba kasi, buhay pa pero ligtas na raw....(kahit magpakasala pa?).
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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by harballah on Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:07 am

MarcCatholic wrote:Kuya Harby, si Father Abe ay hindi mo mahuhusgahan dahil lang sa kanyang inasal sa blog. Ano po bang alam natin sa buhay niya? Malay ba natin kung napakabait pala niya? Virtual life is very different to real life. Hindi nyo naman po kailangang ipangalandakan e dahil malaki na si Father at alam niya yon. Mabuti kung paalalahanan lang pero yong tipong hindi niya alam kung saan yan sa bible, o kung hindi niya alam ang ginagawa niya, yon ang mali. Alam ko aware siya kahit palagay pa nating mali siya. Pati, yong tungkol sa pangungumpisal, hindi po kayang hadlangan ng kasalanan ang grasya ng Diyos. Ang mga pari ay kasangkapan ng sakramento at sila ang nagsasagawa nito. For sure pinagdarasal din nila ito. At least nga e humble silang aminin na nagkakasala talaga sila at kung bawian man sila ng buhay ngayon ay hindi pa nila "talagang" napaghandaan ang panibagong buhay sa Diyos. Yong iba kasi, buhay pa pero ligtas na raw....(kahit magpakasala pa?).

So, sa tingin mo ay okey ang ginagawa ni Father Abe doon sa blogsite niya Marc?

Huwag po ninyong sanang mamasamain kung may nasabi ba akong sa tingin ninyo ay paghuhusga kay Father Abe, medyo lang nagtataka ako sa nababasa ko doon. Malinaw naman ang tinuran ko diyan at wala akong nakikitang masama sa sinabi ko at naging prangka lang ako sa opinyon ko.

Bakit hindi ninyo idulog kay Father ang mga komento sa kanya ng ibang tao sa mga inaasal niya sa blogsite para sa ganoon ay mabasa naman niya ang komento sa kanya.

Again, don't be offended.

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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by MarcCatholic on Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:21 am

Ay, sinabi ko na po kuya Harbs diba na hindi maganda ang iba niyang ginawa tulad ng lantarang ad hom. Actually, nasabi ko na din yon sa kanya e. Tingnan mo doon sa thread sa blog niya nagreply. Sinabi ko na hindi maganda yong ginawa niya.
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Post by harballah on Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:33 am

MarcCatholic wrote:Ay, sinabi ko na po kuya Harbs diba na hindi maganda ang iba niyang ginawa tulad ng lantarang ad hom. Actually, nasabi ko na din yon sa kanya e. Tingnan mo doon sa thread sa blog niya nagreply. Sinabi ko na hindi maganda yong ginawa niya.

Kaya nga nabasa ko rin kaya nga nagulat ako sa sinabi mo sa akin, kaya nga ang sabi ko kay Dhugz


harballah wrote:mabuti naman at hindi ninyo suportado ang kanyang inaasal.

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Re: Priest and Ateo Dialogue

Post by Esther on Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:46 am

this letter is from Yidda:
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I'm sorry to say that I must write in this thread again.

First the priest defended the doctrine and the stand of the "catholic faith in matter of morals" which we also defend in what ever forum we are.

The atheist used insulting word against the priest, which the atheist presented as if he is innocent but in truth he is intentionally playing with words(Damaso) to insult catholiscism. The priest reacted.

Who's fault now? who is correct.

The atheist wants to broaden the issue by finding sympathy from members of Catholics muslim evangelicals atheist etc.. but in truth he also attacks their belief.

beware of evils plot.

Dear apologist this is not a matter of friendship, but faith. ~~~ Yidda

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may lagnat si Yidda.



honestly speaking , conversing with demons instead would be easier than to atheist, at least the demons flee whenever they see my SAINTLY face. Smile esther

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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by Ateo on Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:04 am

I hope Yidda feels better soon.

In the meantime, pakibasa na lang ang poste ko sa kabilang BARM:

http://www.thebereans.net/forum2/showthread.php?p=849055#post849055

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Re: My exchange with a Catholic Priest----by Ateo

Post by Esther on Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:34 am

How about Shad?

I think Yidda will not go in a formal debate against adult men. (1st Cor.) but I'm not sure this might be an exception.

how about the simple format:

premise 1
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conclusion

The argument must establish that the premises are true, and that the conclusion follows from the premises.


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Post by Esther on Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:36 am

Sorry na lang ang old BARM they ban me so the message of Yidda cannot be sent there. And Shad is not a member there.

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Post by Dhugz on Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:57 am

Hayaan na natin ang usaping ito siguro kay Father Abe at Ateo, kasi mahirap na tayo tayo din eh nagpapaapekto sa kanilang alitan sa net. Si Father Abe ay nagsasalita lang din lamang bilang isang taong nadadala sa damdamin, gayundin kay Ateo. Kumbaga, normal din iyon bilang tao. Pero sana, darating ang panahon na makikita ni Father Abe bilang Pari na di iyon angkop sa kanya, gayundin kay Ateo na sana kahit ganun ang inasal ng Pari, andun parin yung respect kay Fr. abe. Sana magreconcile na ang dalawa, ang isang muntik maging Pari at isang Pari. Very Happy
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