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Post by fredms3 on Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:32 pm

Di ko lang alam kung meron ng naopen na topic regarding sa isyung ito...anyway, ano ba ang pananaw niyo rito mga kapatid?

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Re: Reproductive Health Bill

Post by Dhugz on Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:06 pm

I am anti RH Bill, kasi pagbibigyan lamang nito ang makamundong layaw ng mga tao.
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Post by harballah on Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:21 pm

Bagaman hindi po ako katoliko ay hindi po ako sang-ayon sa panukalang ito sapagkat ginagamit nila ang RH BILL upang magkaroon naman ng gastusin ang gobyerno (budget), in fact nakikita ko rin na nagtuturo ito ng immoralidad tulad noong nakaraang valentines day na ipinamimigay sa magkasintahan na para bang sinasabing magtalik sila at gumamit sila ng condom Sad

Kung gusto man mag-plano ng pamilya ay maraming paraan at nasa tao na kung gumamit sila ng condom o hindi, mas maganda nga na hindi ito ginagawang dahilan para iyong may takot sa diyos ay maiiwasan niya ang pakikipagtalik ng walang kasal.

Opinyon ko lang po.

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Post by Ateo on Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:04 pm

I am in favor of the law that ensure that the church stays away from my bedroom. For too long the church has been snooping on what i am doing. It seems that those who are not getting any sex are envious to those who are. Smile

Thankfully, whatever the church says in terms of sex, people don't follow. Even Rizal fornicated with Josephine in Dapitan.

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Post by Gordon on Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:14 pm

Won't do, particularly if you have a penchant for the underaged.


Ateo wrote:I am in favor of the law that ensure that the church stays away from my bedroom. For too long the church has been snooping on what i am doing. It seems that those who are not getting any sex are envious to those who are. Smile

Thankfully, whatever the church says in terms of sex, people don't follow. Even Rizal fornicated with Josephine in Dapitan.

Yun lang pO. Thnks
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Post by Ateo on Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:44 pm

Gordon wrote:Won't do, particularly if you have a penchant for the underaged.



Focus, Gordon. The issue is contraception not pedophilia. None here advocates for pedophilia. If you wanted to include that topic, then we need to know why the Church did not look well enough into their priests' bedrooms and if it did why did it cover up what it found until the legal system forced open the whole altar boy-abuse mess.

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Post by Dhugz on Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:21 am

Ateo wrote:

Focus, Gordon. The issue is contraception not pedophilia. None here advocates for pedophilia. If you wanted to include that topic, then we need to know why the Church did not look well enough into their priests' bedrooms and if it did why did it cover up what it found until the legal system forced open the whole altar boy-abuse mess.

The issue here is morality. What do you think is the effect of this bill to the Filipino teenagers? I think this bill is a way of promoting prostitution and sexual immorality. Ouch...Napa-inglis ako ah, na-aasar kasi si gordon sa mga tagalog speaking eh. Very Happy
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Post by Gordon on Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:53 am

I think you are the one that is out of focus. When you said keeping the church out the bedroom you were figuratively speaking of your sex life.



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Focus, Gordon. The issue is contraception not pedophilia. None here advocates for pedophilia. If you wanted to include that topic, then we need to know why the Church did not look well enough into their priests' bedrooms and if it did why did it cover up what it found until the legal system forced open the whole altar boy-abuse mess.
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Post by Ateo on Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:00 pm

Gordon wrote:I think you are the one that is out of focus. When you said keeping the church out the bedroom you were figuratively speaking of your sex life.


I was. It was a figure of speech. The message was that the Church should be kept away from the figurative bedroom of our nation. Then, you maliciously implied that I bedded with underaged persons, which is not true and your accusation is disgusting.

The RH Bill is all about empowering people -- including young people -- to know their rights and how to protect themselves from disease as well as sexual predators. There is one Institution in this world -- more than any other -- that has been associated with systematic cover-up, tolerance and pay-offs for sexual predators. You know what it is.

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Post by Gordon on Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:16 pm

Speak in english. If you must speak in Tagalog, write in the formal manner. It sounds more respectful and professional. But formal tagalog is just too "heavy", that it is more practical to converse in english.

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The issue here is morality. What do you think is the effect of this bill to the Filipino teenagers? I think this bill is a way of promoting prostitution and sexual immorality. Ouch...Napa-inglis ako ah, na-aasar kasi si gordon sa mga tagalog speaking eh. Very Happy
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Post by sr_kakashi on Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:12 pm

Di na bago yang issue na yan, lagi na lang nakikielam ang Simbahang katoliko sa Pamahalaan.

I'll go for RH bill, para sa kapakanan ng bawat Filipino yan. Ang dami ngayong mga bata nabubuntis kaagad.
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Post by harballah on Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:19 pm

sr_kakashi wrote:Di na bago yang issue na yan, lagi na lang nakikielam ang Simbahang katoliko sa Pamahalaan.

I'll go for RH bill, para sa kapakanan ng bawat Filipino yan. Ang dami ngayong mga bata nabubuntis kaagad.

Oo nga brad ang daming kabataan ang nabubuntis pero sa tingin ko ang tunay na layunin naman ng mga katoliko para huwag ipasa ang RH BILL ay maiwasan na puwedeng mag-enganyo ang mga kabataan na puwede rin pala ang sex basta may condom.

What if kung ang ipagbabawal na lang ay ang pagsasama ng hindi mag-asawa lalo na sa mga motel o limitahan ang magkasintahan na pumunta sa mga lugar kung saan puwede nilang gawin ang mga bagay na puwede nilang kahihitnan (sakit na aids at maagang pagbubuntis).

Opinyon lang po!

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Post by Gordon on Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:13 am

Sorry, but you misunderstood me. I was speaking in general and not about you personally.

I was trying to make a point that what happens in the privacy of ones bedroom is not immune from the interference of the State, let alone the Church.

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I was. It was a figure of speech. The message was that the Church should be kept away from the figurative bedroom of our nation. Then, you maliciously implied that I bedded with underaged persons, which is not true and your accusation is disgusting.

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Post by Ateo on Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:09 am

Okay, apologies accepted.

The State has enough laws to protect minors. There is no need for the Church to interfere.

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Post by fredms3 on Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:20 pm

sr_kakashi wrote:Di na bago yang issue na yan, lagi na lang nakikielam ang Simbahang katoliko sa Pamahalaan.

I'll go for RH bill, para sa kapakanan ng bawat Filipino yan. Ang dami ngayong mga bata nabubuntis kaagad.

Paano mo nasabi na sa kapakanan ng bawat Pilipino ang RH Bill?

Kapakanan nga ba natin yan o kapakanan ng mga multinational companies na nagbebenta ng mga condoms at mga contraceptives.

So para wag mabuntis ay aprubahan ang RH Bill, eto ba ang nais mong sabihin bro?

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Post by Dhugz on Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:24 pm

May karapatan daw ang mga ebang heliko-liko na magpakaimmoral
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Post by MarcCatholic on Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:43 pm

RH bill, no pregnancy? Is that so? Sorry I don't believe it.
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Post by harballah on Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:15 pm

fredms3 wrote:

Paano mo nasabi na sa kapakanan ng bawat Pilipino ang RH Bill?

Kapakanan nga ba natin yan o kapakanan ng mga multinational companies na nagbebenta ng mga condoms at mga contraceptives.

So para wag mabuntis ay aprubahan ang RH Bill, eto ba ang nais mong sabihin bro?

Sa tingin ko buddy aprubahan man o hindi ang RH BILL mayroon parin mabubuntis.

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Post by fredms3 on Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:01 am

Tama igan. With or without RH Bill marami pa ring mabubuntis lalung-lalo na sa mga kabataan at patuloy pang tataas ang HIV/AIDS virus.

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Post by harballah on Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:10 am

fredms3 wrote:Tama igan. With or without RH Bill marami pa ring mabubuntis lalung-lalo na sa mga kabataan at patuloy pang tataas ang HIV/AIDS virus.

Kaya nga natatawa ako kung bakit kumakampi daw ako sa katoliko pero hindi nila naisip na ginagamit ko ang utak ko kung bakit hindi rin ako pabor sa RH BILL.

Kung sex ang pag-uusapan ay hindi na kaya-kaya ng condom iyan sa mga kabataan ngayon kasi basta ginusto nila ay ginagawa nila atsaka na lang sila mag-iisip kapag buntis na kasi either ilaglag ang bata o ipa-ampon na lang kaya ng maraming fetus ngayon ang itinatapon sa basurahan.

Isa lang ang pinakamabisang gawin, hindi ang RH BILL ang kailangan kundi turuan ang mga tao na matakot sa Diyos at huwag nilang gawin ang isang bagay na posibleng ikapapahamak ng sarili at kaluluwa nila.

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Post by fredms3 on Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:34 am

Exactly pag hindi umubra ang condom, pills, etc...ang paglaglag sa fetus ang isusunod...grabe talaga ----- Christians in an atheistic way of life.

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Post by fredms3 on Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:38 am

Dhugz wrote:May karapatan daw ang mga ebang heliko-liko na magpakaimmoral

Hahahaha....di na nila kelangan pa Dhugz ang bill bill na yan kung gusto nilang magpakaimoral. Actually gusto lang nilang i-legalize ang mga kabalbalang bagay na yan.

After that, Divorce na ang isusunod nila.

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Post by harballah on Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:21 am

Isa pang ikinatatakot ko nito ay baka mauwi naman sa korapsyon ang pag-angat ng CONDOM (huwag natin kalimutan na aabot ng milyon ang budget niyan), sigurado idadaan iyan sa bidding (tataasan ang presyo tulad noong secret folder noong mga nakaraan eleksyon) then kapag nakuha na kung sino ang supplier ay puwede rin gamitin o nakawin ng mga empleyado para ibenta hehehehe...

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Post by fredms3 on Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:01 pm

Ano pa nga ba igan. Idagdag mo pa ang matinding korapsyon ----- Corruption of morality

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