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Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

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Post by Ateo on Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:44 pm

Ang isang common na "affiliation" sa mga Evangelicals ay "wala" o yung sinasabi nilang "relasyon, hindi relihiyon". Ano ang ibig sabihin nito? Ibig bang sabihin ay wala silang simbahan, at wala silang congregation? At, luckily, wala rin silang tithes? O meron naman at parang motto lang nila itong "relasyon..."?

At ano ang ibig sabihin ng "relasyon"? Relasyon sa Diyos? Akala ko ba ang relihiyon ay ibig sabihin pakikipag-relasyon sa Diyos? So, the motto becomes illogical if it translates as "Relasyon, hindi relasyon".

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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by harballah on Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:25 pm

Ehem! naunahan mo ako sa paksang iyan at mabuti naman at nailatag mo atleast malalaman natin kung bakit ina-adapt ng marami ng born again sa OLD BARM ang motto ni disipulo aka kapatid na "RELASYON HINDI RELIHIYON", bawal ba ang magkaroon ng relihiyon at bakit si Hesus ay tinawag na Hudyo kung sa relasyon lang pala ito sa Diyos.

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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by Abdullah Elero on Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:47 pm

At bakit din sila tinawag na born again o evangelicals
Ask ko Lang sa mga born again Kung sila ba ay NASA labas ng relihiyong kristiyanismo?
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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by harballah on Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:33 pm

Wait natin si comby at baka mabigyan tayo ng paliwanag sa mga katanungan na ito.

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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by BibleBot on Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:47 pm

ang born again di naman religion yun eh

relasyon po iyon sa Diyos
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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by Abdullah Elero on Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:49 pm

Biblebot kaanib ba kayo ng relihiyong kristianismo?
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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by harballah on Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:53 pm

BibleBot wrote:ang born again di naman religion yun eh

relasyon po iyon sa Diyos

Ikaw ba nagpapatawag na kristiyano ?

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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by the700clowns on Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:08 pm

Ateo wrote:Ang isang common na "affiliation" sa mga Evangelicals ay "wala" o yung sinasabi nilang "relasyon, hindi relihiyon". Ano ang ibig sabihin nito? Ibig bang sabihin ay wala silang simbahan, at wala silang congregation? At, luckily, wala rin silang tithes? O meron naman at parang motto lang nila itong "relasyon..."?

At ano ang ibig sabihin ng "relasyon"? Relasyon sa Diyos? Akala ko ba ang relihiyon ay ibig sabihin pakikipag-relasyon sa Diyos? So, the motto becomes illogical if it translates as "Relasyon, hindi relasyon".

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marami silang nonsense na gimmick, ayaw pang patawag na religion e ganun din naman yun.




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a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
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a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
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the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
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the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
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the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
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something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by harballah on Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:06 pm

comby and kakashi baka gusto ninyong sumagot at magpaliwanag kasi si biblebot nawala na.

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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by BibleBot on Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:10 pm

ako po ay kristyano

yung born again po yun po ang tanda na ikaw ang kristyano kasi pinanumbalik mo ang relasyon mo sa Dyos
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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by harballah on Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:45 pm

BibleBot wrote:ako po ay kristyano

yung born again po yun po ang tanda na ikaw ang kristyano kasi pinanumbalik mo ang relasyon mo sa Dyos

Iyong pagtawag ba bilang kristiyano ay hindi po relihiyon ?

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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by Dhugz on Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:18 pm

Oo nga naman kasi ang Kristiyanismo ay relihiyon naman eh.
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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by Abdullah Elero on Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:49 pm

Ang relihiyong kristianismo ay may maraming sekta,andiyan ang Roman Catholic,INC,SDA,ADD,mormons,at marami pang iba.

Ayon sa inyo Hindi kayo matatawag na relihiyon kundi ang gusto ninyo ay ang Relasyon

Ang tanong,kasama po ba ang born again sa mga sekta ng relihiyong kristianismo ?
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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by BibleBot on Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:11 am

hindi nga po sekta ang born again

ag born again yun po ay relasyon mo sa Dyos
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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by Ateo on Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:14 pm

BibleBot wrote:hindi nga po sekta ang born again

ag born again yun po ay relasyon mo sa Dyos

Pwede bang maputol ang relasyon na ito o talagang OSAS na OSAS na talaga?

Halimbawa, napunta tayong Pegastus (yikes) o di kaya sa Big Papa (yikes, yikes!), macancel ba yang rela-relayon na yan?

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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by Comb@tron on Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:43 pm

Pwede po ateo kasi lugar ng kasalanan yon eh naglaban nanaman ang spirit sa laman nag cocontradict Smile
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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by Ateo on Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:33 pm

So, ang OSAS pala ay di gumagana pag nagkasala ang tao?

Di parang pareho lang yan sa paniniwala ng mga Catholics? Anong pinag-iba?

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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by harballah on Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:47 pm

BibleBot wrote:hindi nga po sekta ang born again

ag born again yun po ay relasyon mo sa Dyos

Hindi naman pagiging sekta lang ang tanong ni Abdullah kundi kung nagpatawag ka bang kristiyano ay hindi po ba relihiyon ang kristiyanismo.

Abdullah wrote:Ang relihiyong kristianismo ay may maraming sekta,andiyan ang Roman Catholic,INC,SDA,ADD,mormons,at marami pang iba.

Ayon sa inyo Hindi kayo matatawag na relihiyon kundi ang gusto ninyo ay ang Relasyon

Ang tanong,kasama po ba ang born again sa mga sekta ng relihiyong kristianismo ?

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Post by harballah on Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:49 pm

Ateo wrote:So, ang OSAS pala ay di gumagana pag nagkasala ang tao?

Di parang pareho lang yan sa paniniwala ng mga Catholics? Anong pinag-iba?

Kaya pala hindi masagot ni biblebot iyong tanong ko sa kabilang thread kung saan ba nag-uumpisa ang pagiging ligtas nila hehehehe...

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Post by BibleBot on Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:02 pm

ang kristyano po yaong tagasunod ni kristo

yung nagtitiwala na siya lamang ang tunay na tagapagligtas
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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by Comb@tron on Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:06 pm

Ateo wrote:Ang isang common na "affiliation" sa mga Evangelicals ay "wala" o yung sinasabi nilang "relasyon, hindi relihiyon". Ano ang ibig sabihin nito? Ibig bang sabihin ay wala silang simbahan, at wala silang congregation? At, luckily, wala rin silang tithes? O meron naman at parang motto lang nila itong "relasyon..."?

At ano ang ibig sabihin ng "relasyon"? Relasyon sa Diyos? Akala ko ba ang relihiyon ay ibig sabihin pakikipag-relasyon sa Diyos? So, the motto becomes illogical if it translates as "Relasyon, hindi relasyon".

Hindi naman kasi religion ang mahalaga kundi ang personal na relasyon kay Jesus ateo eh. Nagiging mahalaga lang ang religion dahil doon tayo natututo, doon tayo nate-train. Hindi yung dahil nagpalista ka lang, save ka na! Kailangang spiritual membership muna. And then it becomes a formal, actual membership so that you will have a place to grow, to serve and be served, to love and be loved.

Ang tanong, may nagbayad na ba ng iyong kasalanan (para sa mga theist)?

Regarding sa personal relationship eto po ang patunay ng Bible

GOD'S PLAN IN SALVATION

The Bible says there is only one way to Heaven
[INDENT]Jesus said: "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father but by me." (John 14:6)

Good works cannot save you.
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9) [/INDENT]

Trust Jesus Christ today! Here's what you must do:
Admit you are a sinner.

  • "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" (Romans 3:23)
  • "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" (Romans 5:12)
  • "If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." (1 John 1:10)


Be willing to turn from sin (repent).

  • Jesus said: "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." (Luke 13:5)
  • "And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:" (Acts 17:30)


Believe that Jesus Christ died for you, was buried, and rose from the dead.

  • "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)
  • "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners. Christ died for us." (Romans 5:8)
  • "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." (Romans 10:9)


Through prayer, invite Jesus into your life to become your personal Saviour.

  • "For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." (Romans 10:10)
  • "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (Romans 10:13)

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What to pray:

Dear God, I am a sinner and need forgiveness. I believe that Jesus Christ shed His precious blood and died for my sin. I am willing to turn from sin. I now invite Christ to come into my heart and life as my personal Saviour.
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"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:" (John 1:12)
"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17)




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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by harballah on Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:10 pm

BibleBot wrote:ang kristyano po yaong tagasunod ni kristo

yung nagtitiwala na siya lamang ang tunay na tagapagligtas

Ang tanong kasi brad ay pagiging kristiyano ba ay hindi relihiyon, sa madaling salita ay kristiyanismo ba ay hindi relihiyon?

Pakisagot lang po ng deretsahan at puwede natin i-apply iyong madalas gamitin ng kapanalig mo sa kabila na YES or NO Laughing

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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by BibleBot on Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:15 pm

hindi po
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Re: Relasyon, hindi relihiyon

Post by harballah on Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:33 pm

BibleBot wrote:hindi po

So, hindi po relihiyon ang kristiyanismo iyan ba ang tugon mo diyan na "hindi po" ?

Paki-kumpirma para sa ganoon ay hindi mo masabing gumawa lang ako ng haka-haka o sinasabi ko ang hindi mo sinasabi.

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Post by Comb@tron on Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:49 pm

^malinaw naman yung sinabi ni biblebot harbs ah hindi
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