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Post by harballah on Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:28 pm

Madalas ginagawa ito ng ilan sa kristiyano (hindi naman lahat).

Sa tingin kaya ninyo ay hindi nagkakasala ang gumagawa nito at kung kamatayan nila ang nakagisnan nilang ito ay hindi ba sila mananagot sa dakilang lumikha.

Sana masagot itong katanungan ko na ito.

Thanks and peace!

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Post by RavlaM on Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:10 pm

harballah wrote:Madalas ginagawa ito ng ilan sa kristiyano (hindi naman lahat).

Sa tingin kaya ninyo ay hindi nagkakasala ang gumagawa nito at kung kamatayan nila ang nakagisnan nilang ito ay hindi ba sila mananagot sa dakilang lumikha.

Sana masagot itong katanungan ko na ito.

Thanks and peace!

Kung hindi nila itatama ang kanilang pagkakasal at di sila humingi ng taimtim na kapatawaran sa panginoon ay nakakatiyak akong mananagot sila.....

Sa pagkakaalam ko ay ganoon din para sa mga muslim.
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Re: LIVE IN (KASALANAN BA)

Post by harballah on Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:44 pm

RavlaM wrote:

Kung hindi nila itatama ang kanilang pagkakasal at di sila humingi ng taimtim na kapatawaran sa panginoon ay nakakatiyak akong mananagot sila.....

Sa pagkakaalam ko ay ganoon din para sa mga muslim.

Tama po kayo sa sinabi ninyo brad ravlam.

Maraming salamat po sa tugon ninyo, wait natin sa iba kung tama po ba ito sa kanila.

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Post by fredms3 on Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:18 pm

harballah wrote:Madalas ginagawa ito ng ilan sa kristiyano (hindi naman lahat).

Sa tingin kaya ninyo ay hindi nagkakasala ang gumagawa nito at kung kamatayan nila ang nakagisnan nilang ito ay hindi ba sila mananagot sa dakilang lumikha.

Sana masagot itong katanungan ko na ito.

Thanks and peace!

Igan ang alam ko ignorance of the Law excuses no one...

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Post by harballah on Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:32 pm

fredms3 wrote:

Igan ang alam ko ignorance of the Law excuses no one...

Kaso iyon nga ang nangyayari ngayon buddy, nakita mo naman hindi na lingid sa kaalaman ng simbahan ninyo ang mga naglilipanang nagsasama ng walang kasal hindi ba at sa tingin mo kaya ano pa ang puwedeng gawin ng simbahan upang matigil ang kalakarang ito.

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Post by fredms3 on Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:50 pm

Korek ka dyan igan.

Ang magagawa na lang ng Simbahan dyan ay lagi silang paalalahanan sa bagay na yan. Hindi naman natutulog ang RCC dyan igan, dangan nga lang at patuloy pa rin ang ating mga kapatid sa pagli live-in. Magkaganunman, ay marami rin namang naaakit na magpakasal sa pamamagitan ng 'Mass Wedding.'

We always pray to God for grace that one day they will seek God's blessing to their relationship by having a church wedding.

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Post by harballah on Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:04 pm

fredms3 wrote:Korek ka dyan igan.

Ang magagawa na lang ng Simbahan dyan ay lagi silang paalalahanan sa bagay na yan. Hindi naman natutulog ang RCC dyan igan, dangan nga lang at patuloy pa rin ang ating mga kapatid sa pagli live-in. Magkaganunman, ay marami rin namang naaakit na magpakasal sa pamamagitan ng 'Mass Wedding.'

We always pray to God for grace that one day they will seek God's blessing to their relationship by having a church wedding.

Salamat buddy sa pagsang-ayon sa aking puna sa nangyayaring pagsasama ng walang kasal sa hanay ng kristiyanismo, nais ko rin malaman kung sa part naman ng ibang denominasyon ay pinapayagan nila ito at sa tingin din kaya nila ay nagkakasala ang mga ito.

What if mayroon Born Again na nakipag-LIVE IN, ligtas parin ba sila sa paghatol ng dakilang lumikha What a Face

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Re: LIVE IN (KASALANAN BA)

Post by harballah on Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:58 am

Watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUIQSgNJ3oc&feature=player_embedded#at=766


what can you say What a Face

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Post by Ateo on Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:31 am

What can I say?

Well the video is not very relevant to the issue?

Face-to-face is a tasteless TV program. It is an example of the abuses of reality TV. It is composed of scandalous reality TV participants, who enjoy the high TV fees to show their scandalous lives in public (they are actually coached to make labo-labo onstage). It is also patronized by voyeur audience, whose lives are not anywhere better than those on the show. And, of course, the shameless TV producers who profit from the pains and tragedies of ordinary people.

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Post by fredms3 on Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:09 pm

harballah wrote:

Salamat buddy sa pagsang-ayon sa aking puna sa nangyayaring pagsasama ng walang kasal sa hanay ng kristiyanismo, nais ko rin malaman kung sa part naman ng ibang denominasyon ay pinapayagan nila ito at sa tingin din kaya nila ay nagkakasala ang mga ito.

What if mayroon Born Again na nakipag-LIVE IN, ligtas parin ba sila sa paghatol ng dakilang lumikha What a Face

Mahirap maghusga sa mga ginagawa ng mga kapatid natin.

Best is to pray and tell these people, if they're our friends on the consequences of such act. At face value, Live-in is against the Law of God.

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Post by Ateo on Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:34 pm

You, guys, keep on inventing all these sins -- live in, masturbating, condom-use, divorce, gays, etc., etc.

The Biblical bases on any of the above "sins" are doubtful and contested.

But there are specific, God-stated, Bible-indicated sins and they don't bother you or your Church. For example, the Ten Commandments said that you should honor (to go Mass) every Sunday or day of rest. Those are God's words, yet the RCC is not bothered that so many Catholics miss Sunday mass. You should have encyclicals against Sunday-missers. You should have rallies, interviews, blogs, etc. castigating those who miss Sunday services.

I think you are running your own agenda, instead of Gods. You are setting your own priorities instead of God's priorities.

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Post by fredms3 on Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:39 pm

Are you disgusted Ateo with such topics on live-in, condoms, masturbating, divorce, gays?

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Post by Ateo on Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:55 pm

No, I am not, Fred. Sexual rights advocacy is my voluntary work. Those topics are just breakfast to me.

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Post by fredms3 on Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:22 pm

Well, for us RC's being gay is not a sin. Separation is allowed but not divorce.

Wha'ts the proof that those things you've mentioned, except for gay issue, are all invented sins?

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Post by harballah on Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:49 pm

Ateo wrote:What can I say?

Well the video is not very relevant to the issue?

Face-to-face is a tasteless TV program. It is an example of the abuses of reality TV. It is composed of scandalous reality TV participants, who enjoy the high TV fees to show their scandalous lives in public (they are actually coached to make labo-labo onstage). It is also patronized by voyeur audience, whose lives are not anywhere better than those on the show. And, of course, the shameless TV producers who profit from the pains and tragedies of ordinary people.

Ateo, relebant po ang bidyo na ipinakita ko kasi makikita mo na ang lalaki ay nagkaroon ng apat na babae at tatlo yata sa mga ito ay nagsama sila ng walang kasal, kung ginamit man sila ng programa ay wala na akong pakialam bagkus ang ipinaskil ko na iyan ay patunay na nauuso ang LIVE-IN at malinaw na batayan ang mga sinasabi ng mga babaeng nandiyan na sila ay nagsasama habang kasama niya ang iba pa.

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Post by Ateo on Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:21 am

fredms3 wrote:Well, for us RC's being gay is not a sin. Separation is allowed but not divorce.

Wha'ts the proof that those things you've mentioned, except for gay issue, are all invented sins?

Jeez, Fred, look at it this way. God said, "Thou shalt not use my Name in vain.". Susmaryosep, it is His words, Fred. Omigosh, we are not supposed to use his name in casual expressions. I hope I am not violating this Commndment, juzkopo!

But the RCC is not getting itself excited by so many violations of this Commandment. In the movies, in casual conversation, at home, etc; the Name of God is used in vain but it does not bother you nor your Church as much as condoms do.

If Adam wants to marry Steve, you would get so flustered. But if Adam uses God's name in vain, there is no complaints from you.

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Post by Ateo on Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:58 am

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/08/royal-bride-kate-middleton-virginity_n_846626.html

The bride of Prince William, future head of the Church of England, is not a virgin. She and Prince William were also living in from time to time; i.e., fornication.

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Post by harballah on Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:51 pm

Ateo wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/08/royal-bride-kate-middleton-virginity_n_846626.html

The bride of Prince William, future head of the Church of England, is not a virgin. She and Prince William were also living in from time to time; i.e., fornication.

Pero uso naman yata ngayon ang hindi na birhen ang babae, pero tutuo ba na nagsasama na ang dalawa ng walang kasal What a Face

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Post by harballah on Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:52 pm

Grabe naman ang mag-asawang ito na nag-LIVE IN nagtagaan pa.


Maglive-in partner nagtagaan
Ni Ed Casulla (Pilipino Star Ngayon) Updated April 09, 2011 12:00 AM Comments (0)

CAMP SIMEON OLA, Legazpi City ,Philippines — Patay ang isang babae habang grabe namang nasugatan ang live-in partner nito matapos ang mainitang pagtatalo na nauwi sa tagaan sa ka­nilang tahanan sa Zone 5, Brgy. Villa Florida, Ocampo, Camarines Sur.

Nakilala ang nasawi na si Marites Bistro 35, dalaga, live-in-partner ng sugatang suspek na isinugod sa Bicol Medical Center na nakilalang si Rodolfo Pedral, 42, live-in partner ng una.

Batay sa ulat ng pulisya, bandang alas-8 ng umaga ng magkaroon ng mainitang pagtatalo ang dalawa na humantong sa pagtatagaan ng mga ito.

Lumilitaw naman sa inisyal na imbestigasyon na matinding selos ang motibo ng insidente.Patuloy ang pagsisiyasat ng mga awtoridad sa kasong ito.


Source: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=674365&publicationSubCategoryId=49

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Post by fredms3 on Tue May 17, 2011 6:24 pm

Ateo wrote:

Jeez, Fred, look at it this way. God said, "Thou shalt not use my Name in vain.". Susmaryosep, it is His words, Fred. Omigosh, we are not supposed to use his name in casual expressions. I hope I am not violating this Commndment, juzkopo!

But the RCC is not getting itself excited by so many violations of this Commandment. In the movies, in casual conversation, at home, etc; the Name of God is used in vain but it does not bother you nor your Church as much as condoms do.

If Adam wants to marry Steve, you would get so flustered. But if Adam uses God's name in vain, there is no complaints from you.

Ateo, you're now in the issue of using God's name in vain. Before anything else, i wish to be clarified on the issue of invented sins.

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