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1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

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1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by Gordon on Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:00 am

A heretic and self proclaimed "cult buster" says that the sacred doctrine of the Trinity can be defined by 1x1x1=1.

This is wrong.

If 1x1x1=1

But 1x1x1x1x1x1, also equals 1

or 1x1x1.....x N =1


No apostle or sucessor to the apostles EVER used this type of math to teach or explain the nature of God. This is a heresy.

Add this to the growing list of heresies of the evangelicals.

1. Bibles not having the deuterocanonicals
2. Belief in the rapture
3. Sola Scriptura
4. Female Pastors
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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by Comb@tron on Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:13 pm

sino ba nagpasimuno nyan Gords?

Big deal ba yan kung gagamitin yang formula para ma explain ang trinity?
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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by Gordon on Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:53 pm

Comb@tron wrote:sino ba nagpasimuno nyan Gords?

Big deal ba yan kung gagamitin yang formula para ma explain ang trinity?


Yes! Of course it's a BIG deal! It's bad math and the formula is not grounded in scripture.
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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by Comb@tron on Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:35 pm

ah ok thanks, siguro para sayo lang Gords anu? Wala namang masam dyan/


e ako tanungin mo Gords. Pwede ba kong mag sample ng egg? Ang egg merung 3 parts. Shell, white, yolk

shell - egg
white - egg
yolk - egg

pwede rin ba yan Gords o bawal para sayo? (sayo lang ha)
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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by Gordon on Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:53 am

Still questionable, though much better than 1x1x1.

The definition and explanation of the most Holy Trinity is found in the ATHANASIAN CREED of St. Athanasius of the 4th century.

There is no need to reinvent the wheel.




Comb@tron wrote:ah ok thanks, siguro para sayo lang Gords anu? Wala namang masam dyan/


e ako tanungin mo Gords. Pwede ba kong mag sample ng egg? Ang egg merung 3 parts. Shell, white, yolk

shell - egg
white - egg
yolk - egg

pwede rin ba yan Gords o bawal para sayo? (sayo lang ha)
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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by Comb@tron on Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:15 pm

^so kailangan laging ganyan ang explanation ni trinity Gords? (ayon sayo)
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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by harballah on Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:18 pm

Comb@tron wrote:ah ok thanks, siguro para sayo lang Gords anu? Wala namang masam dyan/


e ako tanungin mo Gords. Pwede ba kong mag sample ng egg? Ang egg merung 3 parts. Shell, white, yolk

shell - egg
white - egg
yolk - egg

pwede rin ba yan Gords o bawal para sayo? (sayo lang ha)

kawawa naman ang Diyos ninyo comby kasi inihalintulad ninyo sa itlog Sad

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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by Comb@tron on Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:34 pm

ginawa ko lang example yan bani

shell - egg
white - egg
yolk - egg

ang shell ng itlog matatawag paring itlog kahit ihiwalay
ang egg white matatawag paring itlog kahit ihiwalay
at ang yolk matatawag paring itlog kahit ihiwalay

ganun din ang God

Father - God
Son - God
Holy Spirit - God

simple logic
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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by harballah on Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:48 pm

Comb@tron wrote:ginawa ko lang example yan bani

shell - egg
white - egg
yolk - egg

ang shell ng itlog matatawag paring itlog kahit ihiwalay
ang egg white matatawag paring itlog kahit ihiwalay
at ang yolk matatawag paring itlog kahit ihiwalay

ganun din ang God

Father - God
Son - God
Holy Spirit - God

simple logic

So, bakit sa itlog mo ikinumpara ang Diyos mo diba nakakatawa na para lang masabi ninyo na mayroon tatlong persona ang Diyos ninyo ay gumawa kayo ng sampol sa pamamagitan ng itlog, hindi ba tatlong persona ang Diyos ni Gordon pero bakit hindi kayo magkasundo No

Maski sa mathematical result magkaiba kayo Laughing



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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by Comb@tron on Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:56 pm

hindi ba tatlong persona ang Diyos ni Gordon pero bakit hindi kayo magkasundo

ewan ko
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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by harballah on Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:10 pm

Comb@tron wrote:

ewan ko

Kaya nga nagtataka ako kung bakit iba ang mga aral ninyo pagdating sa tatlong persona na iyan, tulad ng katoliko, born again/evangelical at maski na ang mga sabadista iba rin What a Face

Anyway, lurkmode muna ako gusto kung malaman kung sino ang mas may logic sa inyo ni Gordon....go! go! go! cheers

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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by Gordon on Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:54 am

The shell is not the egg. It is only part of the egg.
The egg white is not the egg. It is only part of the egg.
The yolk is not the egg. It is only part of the egg.

But the shell is not egg white, the egg white is not the yolk, the yolk is not the shell.

In the definition of the divine Trinity, whatever attributes the Father has, the Son and Spirit have also in its FULLNESS.

Therefore the egg analogy is not a correct description of the Holy Trinity.

Comb@tron wrote:ginawa ko lang example yan bani

shell - egg
white - egg
yolk - egg

ang shell ng itlog matatawag paring itlog kahit ihiwalay
ang egg white matatawag paring itlog kahit ihiwalay
at ang yolk matatawag paring itlog kahit ihiwalay

ganun din ang God

Father - God
Son - God
Holy Spirit - God

simple logic
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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by Gordon on Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:58 am

Comb@tron wrote:^so kailangan laging ganyan ang explanation ni trinity Gords? (ayon sayo)

IT IS NOT MY EXPLANATION. It is the explanation of CHRISTIANS since the time of St. Athanasius. You go to any GOOD christian seminary or theological school (Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox. etc.) , the definition as laid out by St. Athanasius is the one presented as CORRECT.
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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by RavlaM on Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:08 am


St. Patrick of Ireland was asked to explain what the Holy Trinity in Catholic tradition means and he answered that the Father, Son & the Holy Ghost were like 3 lobs of the the same clover leaf.
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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by Gordon on Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:08 am

Even the description of St. Patrick is an expansion of the classic description of the Godhead; Which is this:















RavlaM wrote:
St. Patrick of Ireland was asked to explain what the Holy Trinity in Catholic tradition means and he answered that the Father, Son & the Holy Ghost were like 3 lobs of the the same clover leaf.
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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by harballah on Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:17 pm

Gordon wrote:The shell is not the egg. It is only part of the egg.
The egg white is not the egg. It is only part of the egg.
The yolk is not the egg. It is only part of the egg.

But the shell is not egg white, the egg white is not the yolk, the yolk is not the shell.

In the definition of the divine Trinity, whatever attributes the Father has, the Son and Spirit have also in its FULLNESS.

Therefore the egg analogy is not a correct description of the Holy Trinity.


As per your arguments with combatron, I agreed on that Wink

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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by Comb@tron on Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:25 pm

Gordon wrote:The shell is not the egg. It is only part of the egg.
The egg white is not the egg. It is only part of the egg.
The yolk is not the egg. It is only part of the egg.

But the shell is not egg white, the egg white is not the yolk, the yolk is not the shell.

In the definition of the divine Trinity, whatever attributes the Father has, the Son and Spirit have also in its FULLNESS.

Ano? naku mali ka dyan Gordon. Nakaka alarma yan ah? Oneness ka ba? Magkakaibang persona sila Gords ah naku...

Gordon wrote:
Therefore the egg analogy is not a correct description of the Holy Trinity.


Parang ganito Gords oh simple lang diba?
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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by Comb@tron on Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:36 pm

harballah wrote:As per your arguments with combatron, I agreed on that Wink

Combatron is your turn Basketball

harbs magtagalog ka na lang po Very Happy

correction: Combatron its your turn

hihi
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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by Gordon on Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:13 pm

According to your revised drawing:

The egg white by itself constitutes the WHOLE egg. But biologically this is false.
The egg yolk by itself constitutes the WHOLE egg. But biologically this is false
The egg shell by itself constitutes the WHOLE egg. But biologically this is false.

Is your construct therfore correct as it refers to the accepted Athanasian definition of the trinity? No.


Comb@tron wrote:

Ano? naku mali ka dyan Gordon. Nakaka alarma yan ah? Oneness ka ba? Magkakaibang persona sila Gords ah naku...




Parang ganito Gords oh simple lang diba?
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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by RavlaM on Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:05 am

Comb@tron wrote:

harbs magtagalog ka na lang po Very Happy

correction: Combatron its your turn

hihi

Correction:

It's your turn..
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Re: 1x1x1=1 aka another Evangelical Heresy.

Post by harballah on Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:11 pm

Comb@tron wrote:

harbs magtagalog ka na lang po Very Happy

correction: Combatron its your turn

hihi

Huwag mo ng punahin ang english ko ang punahin mo ang baluktot mong pangangatwiran sa Diyos mo, ginagawa mong itlog Twisted Evil

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Correction:

It's your turn..

Kinokorek ako pero mali rin ang grammar niya, pero hindi ko na kailangan na ipaliwanag kung bakit nakalimutan ko iyong it Basketball

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